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[–] [email protected] 98 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (57 children)

Good job to all of the fucks who stayed home because of Gaza, thinking that not voting and letting the GOP rise to power would actually help the situation.

Yeah, because Netanyahu's extreme right-wing policy was a problem with the US's left-wing party, right?

[–] [email protected] 37 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

I doubt Gaza was the deciding factor for 20 million people, but I could be wrong. Especially since anyone that aware of the whole would see trump would worsen the situation not improve it. I'm curious why they did stay home.

I also guess Americans don't want a woman president and they do want a hard crackdown on migrants. Especially Latinos, who apparently overwhelmingly came out for trump.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I also guess Americans don’t want a woman president and they do want a hard crackdown on migrants. Especially Latinos, who apparently overwhelmingly came out for trump.

Latinos voting for hard crackdowns on immigrants is the biggest "fuck you, I've got mine" energy I've ever seen.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 19 hours ago

And they will be so fucking shocked when ice comes for them.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

By far, the overwhelming Biden derangement syndrome factor was "transgenders exist and are in my news feed". That healthcare is available to prisoners and immigrants, means that they are all receiving gender reassignment surgeries. This is democrats fault.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

The fact people can't differentiate edge cases from the norm is a general education issue. But their pushback was anemic.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

General education in the US is underfunded on purpose. It's how the right have won on every issue that counts. Distracted, lazy, frightened and greedy. These are the levers the media pull to get whatever the billionaires want to happen. They tried it with Smedley Butler way back when and learned their lesson. Have the dumbass voter just do what they want with outrage. It doesn't matter who's president or who's in Congress. It matters what's on the news and who they can pay to put it there. The rest falls into place.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 22 hours ago

It wasn't deciding factor at all. People get far too internet poisoned and fail to realize how the median voter is actually motivated in this country. Foreign policy is nearly irrelevant to most voters.

If there is any validity to the idea that Harris' position on gaza tanked the campaign it's in the motivated active base lost interest in giving their time, sweat, and energy to putting boots on the ground for someone that has made every promise to continue bombing children.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 22 hours ago

Millions of people stayed home. I really doubt Gaza was the reason for all of them.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (2 children)

Nato without USA is still bigger military than Russia.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 20 hours ago (5 children)

But with a fraction of the nukes, which is the actual big stick part of NATO

[–] [email protected] 18 points 20 hours ago

In the game of nukes you don’t really need many.

You can destroy the world just so many times.

The rest is just for showing who has it bigger (the arsenal)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

It took two nukes for Japan to wave the white flag. Do we really need 5,000+ nukes for anything? France has 290 and UK has 225. Thats enough to wipe one or multiple countries clean off of the map without any form of surrender.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago

Yes, antimissile systems will shoot down most of your missile volley, so you need to launch enough that they become overwhelmed and the few that make it through accomplish your goal.

We don't know exactly how much "most" is, but its enough that the powers that be consider our current level of armament to be necessary.

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[–] [email protected] 148 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

I mean if Europe wants to increase their military funding and move items in house I think that would be a wonderful idea. Because America is not a reliable partner in this at all in the past two decades.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The perfect excuse for the military industrial complex to move manufacturing overseas.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

So I'm going to say that the military industrial complex is already there, it would simply be a rapid expansion.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago

Multiple EU countries want to, but they also want to give stuff to Ukraine and it's difficult to do both.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 21 hours ago

I think that’s unlikely.

But I also thought Trump winning was unlikely,

So what do I know?

[–] [email protected] 76 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It will just be renamed to No America Treaty Organization

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Technically not... They'd still have Canada.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Don’t you dare call us American! Next thing you know we’ll stop apologizing for everything and actually build a military with jets instead of snowmobiles!

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Thank fuck we didn’t give up our nukes in the UK.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 day ago (4 children)

It seems like a very real possibility. A new, EU followup seems like a natural next step to protect the borders and peace.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Next stage of russian ops will focus more heavily on splitting Europe now that UK and US have been severed off

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Straight out of Alexander Dugins book...

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

thanks! I couldn’t reminder who wrote it.

Foundations of Geopolitics

And later

The Fourth Political Theory

He even used the term ‘special military operation’ in 1997…

His plan is certainly being implemented by putin

[–] [email protected] 9 points 23 hours ago

It's death by a thousand cuts and nobody seems to care. Smh

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Hopefully the EU takes over. It has a lot more economic strength then NATO. Also the UK is strong as well, but that can be managed. Turkey does its own things anyway and I would not trust them. Norway and Iceland are not that important. Canada is going to go with the US anyway. The advantage is easier common funding for projects, due to the EU having more direct access to money. There are also a lot of the basics in the works already.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 17 hours ago

Norway and Iceland are crucial to European defense - what are you talking about?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago

Yeah, what is your reasoning behind that statement about Norway and Iceland?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 19 hours ago

NATO will kick us to the curb and rise to the challenge. We will need them one day and they will say no.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (6 children)

The biggest thing will be all those nato countries who can't do anything with their US weapons if the US says so.

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