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[–] [email protected] 30 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (2 children)

Nato without USA is still bigger military than Russia.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

But with a fraction of the nukes, which is the actual big stick part of NATO

[–] [email protected] 18 points 19 hours ago

In the game of nukes you don’t really need many.

You can destroy the world just so many times.

The rest is just for showing who has it bigger (the arsenal)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

It took two nukes for Japan to wave the white flag. Do we really need 5,000+ nukes for anything? France has 290 and UK has 225. Thats enough to wipe one or multiple countries clean off of the map without any form of surrender.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago

Yes, antimissile systems will shoot down most of your missile volley, so you need to launch enough that they become overwhelmed and the few that make it through accomplish your goal.

We don't know exactly how much "most" is, but its enough that the powers that be consider our current level of armament to be necessary.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 20 hours ago

But are we bringing nukes to a biological warfare... umm... party? Or hell, AI drones/nanobots?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

A lot of that is because rest of NATO is under US umbrella. Not like nukes are high tech at this point. Most of Europe could get nukes real fast if they wanted, but everyone has been better served by it being to many Nuclear Powers up to this point

[–] [email protected] 0 points 17 hours ago

And I expect they will get nukes real fast. Ukraine is probably going to go for that, tbh. It’s kinda their only option at this point.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 20 hours ago

Yep, and thankfully the EU has seen the way the US is going and started to react appropriately.