The planet will win. I can assure you of that.
It was here long before us and it will be long after we are gone.
this post was submitted on 06 Nov 2024
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Exactly, the one who loses is humanity, not the planet.
In the same way it won after the 5 previous mass extinction events I guess (we started the 6th).
Biden/Harris significantly strengthened the oil oligarchy. Posing an existential threat to Russia resulted in 3%+ of global diesel use for the war, and eliminates all possibility of Russia cooperating on global warming. Heating fuel high prices (same refining fraction as diesel) helped drive inflation complaints, and Biden/Harris could never suggest ending the war on Russia to fix inflation. Tariffs on solar, batteries, emobility, and EVs are pro-oil oligarchy as well. Steel tariffs are limiting any reindustrialization chances.
Any priority greater than climate sustainability, war and oil profits for example, ensures climate destruction. "Needing" the US to dominate a "slow energy transition" is placing an unnecessary priority above climate sustainability. Trusting the US as an ally ensures climate destruction. Japan and ROK abandonned their renewable energy targets during Biden administration to help US oil oligarchy.
While Trump may try to destroy US clean energy production and adoption, a war on Iran is likely to be divisive, though it is unclear Harris would have stopped it. Very high oil prices from a war on Iran will put the US on the razor's edge of collapse. Terrorism costs, war expense, inflation, will motivate leveraged dead ender energy investments throughout world, while simultaneously strengthening China/BRICs and demand destruction for FFs.
If there is no war on Iran, and peace in Ukraine, then lower oil prices will stop more US drilling. More US drilling will result in more OPEC production and accelerated price drops that discourage drilling. Like Biden, it is only war that will destroy climate. Trump will strengthen China even more than Biden did. The US is never likely to prioritize climate sustainability over clinging to desperate death throws over its hegemony.
Trump, by accelerating US collapse, will do more for climate sustainability than you think. Individual states and NATO vassals will take more responsibility for global warming.
Sorry, but accelerationism only gets us a lasting fascism. It doesn't get us the kid of stable world where people can substitute wind and solar for fossil fuels
My point is that the US will always prioritize global domination over climate sustainability. Trump's first term did include private/state level US mandates for sustainability as a reaction to dooming-fascism. That movement weakened under Biden. Local hope movements are an uphill battle, but still possible.
Nature of US politics, and a popular vote favouring extreme strengthening of oligarchy, can again result in a strong pendulum movement away from climate destruction, but the next zionist/neocon candidate the DNC provides us will not prioritize global cooperation/sustainability any more than Biden did. Either US collapse, or a political movement based on UBI that disempowers the US empire will lead to lower US emissions.
I wouldn't say that the movement towards state action weakened under Biden; we got some great examples of it, such as the requirement for renewables in Minnesota.
As if Harris would have done something for the climate
She has done something for the climate in the past and unlike Trump actually understands that climate change is real.
Biden set new records on fossil fuel extractions, refused to ban fracking, and is trying to ban imports of solar panels & EV’s. The Biden wars have also poured a disastrous amount of pollution into the atmosphere, including the spill they intentionally caused with the Nordstream pipeline sabotage.
The election’s over. Stop pretending Biden has been any better besides rhetorically.
I guess the world burning was worth sticking it to Kamala for Gaza.
may a better species rise from the ashes of our civilization
I guess Gaza being 100% fucked was worth losing the presidency for Democrats.
Congratulations to climate change. You won buddy. Now get to work on Florida and Texas.
They'll blame it on the Democrats’ weather control technology. You know we have weather control technology, right? We hooked up ghost shamans to quantum computers being run by AI-controlled gay frogs on the 5G network, thereby unlocking the 9th chakra of Satan.
Didn’t you know, bro?
Ukraine is fucked Taiwan is probably fucked Europe is probably fucked Palestine is fucked The world climate is fucked
Did I miss anything?
If Europe falls, it'll be because of our own Nazis coming to power everywhere if we can't eradicate them, not because of the US.
The US nazis would have shown the way, but we'd do it to ourselves, yes.
Migrants in America are fucked as well. Mass deportation, if they are lucky, if not they kill them.
Don't be ridiculous
Economists think his economic plan will crash the dollar and, by extension, the world markets.
But in brighter news, Flint Michigan has clean water as of a few months ago...
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the environment. everything. roe vs wade was because of the judiciary but now they control all the levers.
Well they'll try. Unfortunately for oil and coal companies, China exists.
Unfortunately, climate action is a collective effort globally. With him being in the pocket of Big Oil, expect no further investment into renewables and increased coal mining, fracking, and oil drilling.
Anyone who cared about climate and voted for him (or abstained/voted third party) basically fucked themselves and everybody else.
That's nice, but Americans and American companies can't afford non renewable energy. Trump needs to triple subsidies over the next 4 years to keep them competitive with renewable energy.
Just a reminder, Trump is not more corrupt or well bribed than Texas, and Texas is one of the largest producers of renewable energy in the Western hemisphere. Money wins over ideology, and there's a lot more money to be had with solar and wind given the now low upfront costs and nearly non-existent maintenance costs compared to all fossil fuels.
I hope you're right. I don't really see that in practice, as we slow walk that transition.
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As well as changes to the EPA, NOAA, etc. Talking about climate change might become dangerous. Asking for help from FEMA may weigh heavily on how your state voted.
Anyone who cared about climate and voted for him
i think that intersection is very small.
Which is why I also included abstainers. Not large groups on their own, but enough to swing an election
But per capita, China is pumping way less greenhouse gasses into the atmosphere than the USA. China also built more high-speed rail in a decade than the US has in it's entirety.
That's what I mean, oil and coal companies can try regression, but China is already able to export the means for countries and communities to create their own power cheaper than those groups could buy power from fossil fuels companies.
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Chinese policy doesn't give a shit about climate change. In fact, Xi is banking on a Northern passageway to Europe permanently unthawing to avoid the partly US-controlled South China Sea.
Xi cares about staying in power until he drops in the 2030s, for that he neess to keep the country stable and the people quiet. So what he really wants is industrial power and rising welfare. He's found that one of the best ways to gain an edge that is to spur useful innovation that wealthier nations will want to adopt.
What this means is that we'll see a lot of climate-friendly technology coming oit of China, but the country may not care much about cleaning up its footprint.
Even if you are right I'll take doing the right thing for the wrong reasons over the fucking disappointment and self destruction coming from the United States.
Doesn't matter how you spin it, China is objectively better for the world right now.
You can feel morally superior all the way to societal collapse
Tbh, doesn't feel good pinning hopes on China, but I'll take what I can get at this point.
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10 dollars say that trump will die in office, soon, and his extremist successor will install himself as a theocratic dictator
I was thinking it depends how fast Trump's friends/handlers can get to Vance (how fast Musk can buy him and Bannon can convince him), and how loyal Vance will be to a dead guy. And who knows what Putin has on him. But he might fuck up some international responses (I mean, fuck up the screwing over).
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