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submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

Poor one out for all your LGBTQ+ homies in America, they're about to be hunted for sport.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 19 hours ago

This is simply stupid. Harris didn't lose because of a few memes on her Gaza stance or third party. She lost because she's a relic of the same neoliberal system that has gotten us where we are. Not so say that Trump isn't. He is a neoliberal as well, and a fascist at that too. It's just that trumpists are more willing to go to the polls because of the cult-like party they're in. Democrats need to be pushed out the door with ideas other than ideas stolen from the right. Kamala Harris fumbled her entire campaign and it was obvious from the get go. I honestly do not understand how people thought she'll win. Hell, she even embraced the fucking Cheneys.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

Blaming indiviguals for not wanting to vote for a pro-genicide candidate works so well. Totally helped us win 2016 and 2024.

Here's the real issue. The Dems would rather be moderate Republicans than actual left-wing candidates. They spent all their time trying to appeal to modern White wingers and modern right-wing are still vote for people like Trump instead.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I like how the Republicans are now simply labeled Trump. It's so fitting!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago

If this is a joke, I apologize for clarifying but the Republican is listed as Trump for both of those races because the Republican nominee was Trump in both those races. They're not just calling all Republicans Trump LOL

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago

Oh, look how smart you are, you figured out the REAL issue! Conveniently, it had nothing to do with people like you doing everything possible to spread voter apathy, what a coinky-dink!

Look how smart you are, you didn't vote for the "PrO-gEnoCiDe candidate", and now we have the actual Pro-Genocide PARTY in charge of the Presidency, Congress and the Supreme Court.

What's first on your agenda? Email Trump, ask him to stop the genocide, LOL?? Oh hey, maybe the Trump administration will allow Palestinians to seek asylum here in the US right?!?! We all know how friendly they are to immigrants!

You're so effin' smart, man! We are all in awe of your genius political acumen.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Maybe you could say this if the election was close. But the Gaza-Isreal voters are a drop in the bucket.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

Yep, non-voters were a much bigger problem for Harris

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago

Fuck all non voters. They will be regarded the same as Trump voters in the history books and are the same kind of filth as those.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

If the left is divisible by memes its no wonder they lost to the right.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 21 hours ago

Imagine thinking that billions of dollars in campaign funds were overturned by a picture posted on Lemmy.

The Left is a group so insignificant that we don't need to cater to their positions at all, but so massive that they're completely responsible any time we lose.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Hey, chasing republican votes didn't work this time, but I'm sure it will next time. Definitely don't try appealing to the left.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 23 hours ago

As long as progressives (and correspondingly, everybody) gets nothing, we're good 👍👍🤘✊

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Do you think we'll get primaries back? And not the fake ones we're use to.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No way, the rabble might ask for someone that doesn't allow Nancy Pelosi to openly do insider trading.

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[–] [email protected] 140 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (85 children)

It really isn't leftists' fault, though. Trump easily won the popular vote and flipped georgia, pennsylvania, and wisconsin from their dem vote in 2020. Low voter turnout/voter suppression are the real culprits - along with dems failing to do almost any of the things that could've changed this outcome. Leftist memes did not lose dems the election. Voter apathy and the sheer popularity of fascism did.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I am so sick about the Gaza rhetoric and that’s why we lost. Bitch less then 10% of voters give a shit about Gaza. 40% of voters have major concerns about the economy. The next highest concern was immigration at 20%. Foreign policy was a measly 8% of concern for voters.

This goes for people blaming Jill Stein voters. Kamala got wrecked in this election. Even if you add all 3rd party votes to her she still loses.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Look at Michigan. Nobody was going to ignore Gaza into a victory. The memes and posts were warnings, not divisions. When it became clear she wanted to take a path close to Biden most of us even laid off because it was clear it was more harmful to keep going.

But it turns out that asking the relatives of genocide victims to vote for someone who won't commit to stopping it is not a good campaign strategy. The divide in Michigan is well within the 140,000 strong registered voters in the Arab community.

Take your fucking L like an adult.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Ok, but like at the end of the day, Michigan didn't fucking matter... it was over the minute Trump won PA . Besides that, look at the demographics and how they voted. Young people, those most likely to care about the Gazan genocide, split the vote by gender for Trump and Kamala. Specifically young white and Latino men overwhelmingly voted for Trump. Is that supposed to indicate that caring about the genocide in Gaza, something Trump has repeatedly talked about amping up, is something that the vast majority of the voting populace cared about? No. Kamala got 14 million less votes than Biden did in 2020, and I'm tired of this same gaza, black woman, etc spiel. It can't be chalked up to these things alone. The democrats ran an appointed candidate that never would have won a primary on her own, and got the consequences of that.

The blame is not on Biden, nor is it on Harris for not caring about Gaza. The blame lies squarely on democratic party for not figuring out a plan sooner, and the 14 million voters that appeared 4 years ago when it was trendy, but not now when the threat is most grim. Not to mention the fact that not voting for Kamala when her opponent has not only stated that he will allow Israel to continue, but will actually ramp up their genocide is just fucking stupidity, no two ways about it. Just as we tell Trump voters not to vote with their feelings and to listen to rational arguments, we must tell left-leaning voters the same.

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