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    [–] [email protected] 257 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    Meanwhile the electron app you're trying to run

    [–] [email protected] 29 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

    The other day my laptop was sluggish as hell, checked top and turns out Discord and Orca Slicer were maxing out my cores

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

    Is Orca that resource intensive? I'm running it in a container with KasmVNC and have never really checked out the resource usage. Admittedly it's on one of my local servers in another room. I guess it's how large your projects are too.

    Edit: maybe it's just my small projects

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    [–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago

    you are right :d

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    And your browser with 300 open tabs doesn't even fit into the room

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    Firefox unloads old tabs when restarting the browser, so most of those are more like temporary bookmarks.

    Don't think I've ever seen someone open 300 tabs in one session or on Chromium...

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    [–] [email protected] 71 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

    I've seen builds of the Linux kernel that comfortably fits in my on-die CPU caches.

    So it would just be a picture of an empty sofa.

    [–] [email protected] 44 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    There are mid range CPUs with 128MB of L3 cache now. A Linux distro like Tiny Core could fit entirely in cache.

    [–] [email protected] 26 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Tiny Core Linux is a minimal Linux kernel based operating system focusing on providing a base system using BusyBox and FLTK. It was developed by Robert Shingledecker, who was previously the lead developer of Damn Small Linux.

    Ah, that explains a lot! Didn't know about TCL.

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    [–] [email protected] 40 points 3 weeks ago (11 children)

    Can't relate, just upgraded my laptop from 32GB to 64GB since VScode would keep closing due to OOM. What? Oh, no, it's not vscode's fault.....I keep like 5 Firefox windows with 30+ tabs open, like a fucking maniac..... Close them? What do you mean "close" them?

    [–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Only 30 tabs, you need to bump those numbers up!

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    I had around 1500 open tabs in Firefox. It was fine. I figured enough was enough and closed them all. Now I close all tabs at the end of the day before shutting down.

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    [–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    When I started hitting OOMs I just downloaded free ram.

    (Modifying my zram-generator config to use 1.5x my ram size instead of the measly 4GB – uncompressed – default. Seriously it's worth looking into, though default depends on your distro)

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    [–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

    You only need 1 tab to OOM if that tab is Jira. I've literally had tabs take up more than 10GB.

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    [–] [email protected] 39 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    Wondering how my 64gb will outlast every other part upgrade my gaming Linux box will get over the years

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

    Your use case is obviously different, but I've gone years between system upgrades. I mostly do OSS coding, or work stuff; not gaming. The only case I can imagine needing to upgrade my little Ryzen with 16 cores - a laptop CPU - is if it becomes absolutely imperative that I run AI models on my desktop. Or if Rust really does become pervasive; compiling Rust programs is almost as bad as compiling Haskell, and will take over my computer for minutes at a time.

    When I got this little micro, the first thing I did was upgrade it to 64GB of RAM, because that's the one thing I think you can never have too much of; especially with the modern web and all the shit that brings with it; Electron apps, and so on, absolutely chew up memory. The one good thing about the Rust trend is better memory use, so the crappy compile times are somewhat forgiveable.

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    [–] [email protected] 36 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (13 children)

    Gives a lot of Space for running Virtual machines.

    Also browsers can chew that up fast if you have a lot of tabs, Firefox has managed to do it a few times. At least until I started limiting its RAM to 8GB (best decision ever)

    Limit Firefox to 8GB of RAM .desktop file

    [Desktop Entry]
    Version=1.0
    Name=Firefox RAM limit 8GB
    GenericName=Firefox Ram limit 8GB
    Comment=Limit RAM for Firefox to 8GB;
    Exec=systemd-run --user --scope -p MemoryLimit=8G firefox
    Icon=firefox
    Type=Application
    Terminal=false
    Categories=Utility;Development;
    StartupWMClass=Firefox
    

    (To use it with other apps like Chrome or Electron apps just replace the command at the end, and startup class with the ones from the program you'd like to run. Icon and Name changes are optional but might be desirable so you remember what app it is for).

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    [–] [email protected] 29 points 3 weeks ago

    the rest is electron

    [–] [email protected] 24 points 3 weeks ago

    you just need more things to run on it

    Screenshot_20241102-175331_Firefox

    [–] [email protected] 24 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    Java would like to hog the couch

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

    Minimum requirements to run hello world in Java

    [–] [email protected] 23 points 3 weeks ago

    Once you fire up a webpage it'll just dump garbage all over the couch.

    [–] [email protected] 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    Plenty of room left over for my Chrome tabs

    [–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago

    Four of them.

    [–] [email protected] 22 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
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    [–] [email protected] 21 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    Microsoft Flight Simulator: A whole airplane on the couch

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    [–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    i think you might be able to run kde plasma with that!

    [–] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Fun fact, KDE is very lightweight. More so than a lot of folks give it credit for

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    [–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago

    Better add 32 GB Zram to be safe tho

    I use Kde plasma so I'm allowed to make fun of it

    [–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

    Try realizing ten thousand mesh instances in Blender and watch that sucker eat the rest of your RAM like it's got a pebble in its shoe.

    I did that on my work PC with 128 GB memory (originally built for esports shit) and it still wasn't enough.

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    What fucking e sports game need 100gb of ram...

    [–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    It was also supposed to be an all-in-one recording/streaming computer for university events, and they had to use the budget for something. It ended up being used as a proxmox host for a while, then it was handed off to me. Now the most resource-intensive thing it runs is a Windows 11 VM that I ~~torture mercilessly~~ use for experiments. It rarely gets to 10% memory utilization.

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    [–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

    One of the cushions is your browser, the other half some IDE you use to write an one-liner.

    [–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

    I use a shit load of RAM on Linux. You guys clearly have amateur numbers when it comes to how many applications you have open at once.

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    [–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago

    Like any cat, Linux is actually liquid and can flow over the whole sofa if it so chooses.

    [–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago (11 children)

    Y'all need to point me towards one of those tiny Linux systems. I have an old no-longer-bricked Toshiba Satellite that somebody gave me and I got it to boot again, so I slapped Mint on it to see how I liked it since I've never messed with that distro before. The only problem is this sucker is a dog, it's only got 2 gigs of RAM and a pokey 5400 RPM platter drive in it. The thing sits there and thrashes swap constantly even when it's doing nothing, and when Mint is creating one of its automated system image rollback things it's completely unusable. I'm surprised the laptop platters don't escape their casing and bore into the Earth like a drill bit.

    I found that it will... eventually... load and run the latest FreeCAD build and once it's going it's actually not bad (awful screen resolution and single touch only trackpad notwithstanding). But getting there when taken altogether takes about 20 minutes...

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    [–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

    i mean, some games (cough cough factorio cough cough) manage to use up about 25GB of ram on my system, so it's nice to have a buffer. now, my 64GB may be considered a bit overkill but i call it future proofing

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    [–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago

    That's how I got a free netbook. The netbook had 32GB flash with windows and office occupying 27+GB. Then windows wanted to do an update - with an 8+GB file. Spot the problem. And windows can get quite annoying with updates. As the netbook could not be expanded, and attempts to redirect the update to a USB stick did not work, a newer netbook was bought, and I got the old one. Linux plus libreoffice plus a bunch of extras happily sat in 4GB...

    [–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago

    Leaves Firefox running.

    OOM

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

    Am i the only one who still has no problems with 8GB? Not that I wouldn't be happy with more but i can't remember the last time I've even thought about ram usage

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    [–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

    so much space for activities

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

    You are not Linuxing hard enough.

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

    Now run Mixtral

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    My system gets maxed out of the 16gb regularly.

    [–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

    Yeah. Firefox will gladly make itself comfy in my 32Gb... It's annoying because just because 80% of RAM is "used" doesn't mean it is really.

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    [–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

    I spent years gaming on 8gb. Sure I could barely open bg3 but do I really need my 32 now?

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

    True story. I remember back in the bad old days when Firefox had notorious memory leaks, so when building my latest PC, I put in 32GB. The monitor app on my desktop has only ever topped out at showing 30% of memory allocated.

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