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I was kind of surprised to find out Stalin killed more slavic people than Hitler, since Hitler killed at least 20 million soviets. I looked it up: Apparently Stalin deliberately killed 6 million, which goes up to 9 if you take policies with foreseeable deaths into account. That's less than 20. Yeah, Stalin was a bad guy, but please don't do holocaust erasure.
Wrong! Here's the actual guy who killed the most slavs in both centuries:
"Wow, how'd all this Nazi propaganda get in my anti-communism?"
... so far. We've got 70 odd more years.
Quit Stalin, it's time to be Putin Tankies in their place!
So we're just whitewashing Hitler now. Cool.
Lol, I think the thought of washing Adolfy is causing people to give you downvotes - but now it's there, the tough lives in peoples minds.
What do you mean?
It's estimated 27 million Russians died during WW2. OP is saying that number is attributable to Hitler. The best estimate given the revealed USSR archives, emigres, and informants puts deaths directly caused or the result of neglect attributable to Stalin is 6.5 million.
Basically the first half of the meme is anticommunist, misinformation that ignores the deaths caused by fascists.
Hitler killed more slavs and did it more wontanly then Stalin, and probably would've killed a lot more if Stalin hadn't killed so many people to industrialize fast enough to take on Hitler.
What statistics are you referencing? I'm not doubting you, I'm just curious. Regardless of the answer, if we don't stand up to Russia, we will be doomed World War statistics. Most of the numbers I've found suggest a battle of attrition over supplies, not men. In regards to history, relatively few men have died, but the cost of arms has gone up astronomically. Consumer drones might put that into question eventually. That and Putin. If we're literally talking about the statistical number of deaths Putin has caused, maybe, MAYBE it's greater than Stalin, but then we get into the definition of "responsibility." Okay, I'm doubting you, but I want to be wrong.
The numbers that would put Stalin ahead of Hitler are the ones from fascists that blame Stalin for the deaths in WW2, but it's also not a complete blowout without them so whatever.
I'm not sure why you'd think Putin could compare to either, ever, but the point is it's a new millennium so his only real competition is alcohol manufacturing.
Stalin vs Putin, not Hitler.
i mean... that is one of the most volatile regions in the world in the 21st century and it is almost entirely putin causing that. if there's little competition then it's because he's the only major power in the region stuck in last centurie's mindset and trying to pull the rest of us back. everyone else being better now is a point against putin.
it's like the rest of the world saw WWII as a lesson on how not to be, and he saw glory.
Fair, but how do we prove that? Again, I agree, I just REALLY want the numbers. I know someone who legitimately supports attacking Ukraine may use the numbers against me in the future. I'd prefer to be more accurate than rely on propaganda.
Sure, but we're just getting started, the resource wars haven't even begun in earnest. He simply doesn't have any good competition for the title of world's biggest murderous shithead besides Bush Jr and Xi.