An international (English speaking) socialist Lemmy community free of the "ML" influence of instances like lemmy.ml and lemmygrad. This is a place for undogmatic shitposting and memes from a progressive, anti-capitalist and truly anti-imperialist perspective, regardless of specific ideology.
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0. Only post socialist memes
That refers to funny image macros and means that generally videos and screenshots are not allowed. Exceptions include explicitly humorous and short videos, as well as (social media) screenshots depicting a funny situation, joke, or joke picture relating to socialist movements, theory, societal issues, or political opponents. Examples would be the classic case of humorous Tumblr or Twitter posts/threads. (and no, agitprop text does not count as a meme)
1. Socialist Unity in the form of mutual respect and good faith interactions is enforced here
Try to keep an open mind, other schools of thought may offer points of view and analyses you haven't considered yet. Also: This is not a place for the Idealism vs. Materialism or rather Anarchism vs. Marxism debate(s), for that please visit c/AnarchismVsMarxism.
2. Anti-Imperialism means recognizing capitalist states like Russia and China as such
That means condemning (their) imperialism, even if it is of the "anti-USA" flavor.
3. No liberalism, (right-wing) revisionism or reactionaries.
That includes so called: Social Democracy, Democratic Socialism, Dengism, Market Socialism, Patriotic Socialism, National Bolshevism, Anarcho-Capitalism etc. . Anti-Socialist people and content have no place here, as well as the variety of "Marxist"-"Leninists" seen on lemmygrad and more specifically GenZedong (actual ML's are welcome as long as they agree to the rules and don't just copy paste/larp about stuff from a hundred years ago).
4. No Bigotry.
The only dangerous minority is the rich.
5. Don't demonize previous and current socialist experiments or (leading) individuals.
We must constructively learn from their mistakes, while acknowledging their achievements and recognizing when they have strayed away from socialist principles.
(if you are reading the rules to apply for modding this community, mention "Mantic Minotaur" when answering question 2)
6. Don't idolize/glorify previous and current socialist experiments or (leading) individuals.
Notable achievements in all spheres of society were made by various socialist/people's/democratic republics around the world. Mistakes, however, were made as well: bureaucratic castes of parasitic elites - as well as reactionary cults of personality - were established, many things were mismanaged and prejudice and bigotry sometimes replaced internationalism and progressiveness.
These are the “fiscally conservative, socially liberal” Republicans all over the city. It doesn’t matter what they believe, or say they believe, the only thing they think about at the polls is conservatism.
“I absolutely support education, just not with my tax dollars.”
Ah the ol' bootstrap manifestors
Completely oblivious to the circumstances that gifted them their lives, yet insistent on making their delusion a reality for those less fortunate.
My parents sure do love voting away all social welfare from existence.
My family would not have survived without the food, medical, and schooling assistance we recieved. Without their church helping out, we wouldn't have had the rent several times.
They don't see any problem here.
Gotta pull that ladder up behind them.
But why would you trust government over the church? They have God on their side!
Completely oblivious to the circumstances that gifted them their lives
I think it's wilful ignorance, at least sometimes. They know they succeed because of taxes paid by previous humans, they just don't want to contribute themselves.
It’s pretty simple. Just like when the simple solution to defeating the Nazis was to fucking kill them or force them to surrender and rot in a prison. The approach still stands. You don’t let fire spread; you put it out. You don’t let disease spread; you kill or contain it. You don’t let mold grow in your house; you eradicate it.
You don’t let nazis march in your streets in 2024; you beat the fuck out of them and send them to hell.
We can't beat up the Nazis when the cops are already there protecting them, it's insane that we've gotten to this point
The reality is that if people want to stop simply dreaming about revolution, shit is gonna get way ugly before it gets better. Us USA folks are stuck in a country that has both the biggest military and by extension, police forces, in the entire world. Our government looks at world atrocities and is like “yeah, we patented that.”
We can't beat up the Nazis when the Nazis are already there protecting them
I was hoping someone would comment that lol
We can’t beat up the Nazis when the cops are already there protecting them, it’s insane that we’ve gotten to this point
Cops were always out there protecting reactionary politics.
There’s a word for people who voted for the Nazis over economic policy…
Ooh ooh ooh does it rhyme with Yahtzee?
It certainly does. And it’s important to remember that a lot of dissatisfied leftists frustrated with the democratic socialists decided not to vote as a protest in that election.
Reminder that 23 of the best Nobel prize-winning economists agree: the economy and middle-class people will be better off with Kamala Harris.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/23/politics/nobel-prize-economists-harris-economic-plan/index.html
I assume lower class people will as well. But voting over the economy is an emotional thing not a practical one. It’s a result of the two Santa tactic causing people to associate republicans with economic prosperity (of the same variety experienced by a fool with their first credit card and no job to spend their time with) and democrats with the unpleasantness of the economic slump this makes and the long term sound tactics that aren’t fun in the moment but do work
What is it ? I'm not a history buff
Nazi. It doesn’t matter why they supported the Nazis, they voted for Nazis.
aaaaaaaahhh hahaha that was a trick ! nice one
But surely the biggest problem in America is that oligarchs pay too much taxes /s We too will be welcome into the oligarch club, and who tf wants to pay 21% corporate taxes when we get there. Like why bother ruling over all of you, if we will have to pay taxes?
Genocide’s a dealbreaker but I encourage swingstaters to vote Harris
You know and the fascism stuff.
also though name the policy point of his you support? nobody talks actual positions lol
He doesnt have policies. Just hate and random brain farts
Exactly
Any other Doctor Who fans who just see a worst timeline Capaldi reveal?
Oh no, it's the consequences of my actions!
Is it wrong to call a Nazi a Nazi? No and it should be done regularly.
For 16+ years I've been watching the divisions grow. It started with the covert racism of the tea party and birtherism and in 2015 an orange turd slid down an escalator and brought it all out into the open, making it ok to identify people as rapists and murders based on where they are from and the color of their skin.
There has always existed "others" to those who need to have someone to blame or someone to punch down and there always will be. But I liked it better when they weren't so empowered. "Democracy dies in darkness" but so does hate.
It used to be that not knowing how to spell potato or not wanting to eat broccoli was enough to damage a political reputation. To say that you don't like the man who divides and insults, funnels tax money to his pockets, attacks women verbally and physically, and threatens the security of our nation and our allies'; but still vote for him is insanity. At this point I can only conclude that his supporters embrace the racism, are willfully ignorant, view him as a useful idiot, or a bit of it all.
End rant. I didn't want to actually add to the divide, but finding common ground is nearly impossible.
I'm happy to vote for Harris. A person who supports all Americans regardless of how they identify in any way. I am excited to have someone who will fight for equality. Someone who understands that income and wealth disparity is failing lower and middle classes.
Harris is not perfect, but perfect for me won't be for someone else, so searching for perfect is a losing hand.
I agree things used to be more... sensible? But the issue I take here is the bit about hate. It does not die in darkness. It festers. It may be forgotten and quaint by the time it boils back up, but it remains. The best resolution to hate is enlightenment and education, but that is a difficult and involved commitment, which doesn't suit our particular need to fight the nearest alligator at all times. The greater risk comes when we've forgotten about the hate because we were busy with something else.
You're right it doesn't die, but it is suffocated a bit in my experience. When it is not okay to be hateful, when people actually are not comfortable putting their hatred out there, it doesn't spread as easily.
Now do the same with genocode support.