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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

RIP Lilia.

Usually I'd say if we don't see the body there is a chance, but I think her going back to the start (of her training) means her time is over.

I'm ready glad we got just a great send-off and they did an excellent job both foreshadowing the episode and telling it in a confusing but understandable way.

Assuming that's the end of the Salem Seven, they made for a weak red herring. Although maybe they're an extension of Rio and they have a little more story left to tell.

Also, "Teenager, damn using his full name"

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

Usually I'd say if we don't see the body there is a chance, but I think her going back to the start (of her training) means her time is over.

I agree, but also given Lilia's experience of time, she's only really dead chronologically. Maybe now she gets to enjoy her youth.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

IMHO - The best episode so far.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago

IMHO both one of the best episodes of Marvel TV period and the probably the most well-rounded piece of media Marvel has put out since GOTG3.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I liked Lilia as a character before this episode, I love her now. Did not expect her to get an episode like this.

Did also not expect such a queer episode. From Agatha's "you want a straight answer? Ask a straight woman" to Billy's "I guess I'm the queer-ent".

Interesting time-tripping parallels to Loki season 2, but done in a very different way and more out-of-comfort-zone for Marvel. I really hope the studio gave Jac Schaeffer creative freedom for the last episode, as opposed to Wandavision.

"We're not cool, teenager" - "Damn, using his full name" 😂

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

you want a straight answer? Ask a straight woman

Yeah I loved that. I'm looking forward to Rio & Agatha getting back together again.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago

Whelp, Lilia was definitely a character that grew to become my favorite. Brava Patti LuPone!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I absolutely was not expecting the Lilia reveal to be so incredibly satisfying. A couple of days ago, I wondered if anybody had listed all of her various outbursts in an attempt to put them in some meaningful order, but even though I was on the right track, this was much better than what I was imagining (I was guessing some kind of latent prescient ability locked away in a separate personality). I love Patti LuPone and they really did both her and Lilia justice here. Perhaps more than anything else, this will be the hook for a rewatch, seeing Lilia again in her true context.

I simultaneously want the series to be done so I can start again and want it to keep going forever.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, I wonder if anyone was able to get them into the correct order before this episode. Because the fact that "Alice, don't" goes in front of "try to save Agatha" was quite mind-opening. Really great jobs by the writers that they managed to connect all this cohesively.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Ironically, the Tower upright is the trial Tower reversed.

Lilia never answered Teen's question.

A very cool death for her though...