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Earlier preliminary results had indicted a majority "no," but a surge of ballots from abroad provided last-minute support for EU membership. The referendum comes amid allegations of Russia-backed voter fraud

With more than 99% of the votes counted, the "yes" vote for EU membership in Moldova's referendum was slightly ahead at 50.28%


only 8,000 votes more than the anti-EU camp.

Earlier, Moldovans appeared to have rejected plans for the former Soviet republic to add its goal of joining the EU to the constitution, according to preliminary results from 70% of ballots in the country's referendum from Sunday evening.

However, ballots from Moldovans living abroad were counted towards the end, giving the "yes" camp a last-minute push. 

A largely agricultural country of around 2.5 million people, Moldova has sought to cut ties with Moscow and move closer to the EU since Russia's invasion of neighboring Ukraine in 2022.

The former Soviet republic began EU membership talks in June.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I hope russia lost a lot of bribe money on this.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago

It's such a small country I doubt they lost enough to matter. They'll just buy a little less armor for their personnel carriers and call it a wash

[–] [email protected] 44 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

This is why (are you watching America!) you should never judge results early or stop counting ballots.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

“Stop the count!”

Why?

“Because I’m winning!”

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

Let’s see the first vote. Nah, it’s for the other guy. Otherwise we would have called it a day. Keep on counting until I’m just over 50%.

(14 votes later)

That’s it. I won! Stop counting the votes. You see, 8 out of 14 people say I should be the president. No need to check the remaining 40 million votes. We’re all good here.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

U.S. elections work differently. A Republican does not need to win the popular vote to win an election here. Our electoral college system heavily favors Republicans as it gives unfair weight to sparsely populated rural states.

If a Democrat wins the popular vote by that narrow of a margin, they have lost the election.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

They sure do.

The point was that Orange Man and his followers were calling to stop the count when early votes and mail-in ballots were counted towards the end and made him lose swing states. He said something along the lines of "we were winning, and then they found these votes, and suddenly we were losing".

[–] [email protected] 42 points 3 weeks ago

Good for them. I hope they don’t end up electing someone like Orban at some point.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This isn’t an actual accession to the EU though is it? Rather just Moldova altering its constitution to reflect an eventual desire to join?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago

It's the first domino to fall of many.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Hey welcome!

That's som fucking good news!!

Well done.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

What's with Transistria? That's fucked up state is like Donbas in Ukraine, a tab that was left to contest their independence from the russiasphere not letting them join any union. I think, as the 90s passed a long time ago, the only country that would be harmed by separation is that shithole itself, not Moldova, and the security of their border (and, probably, the EU border then) would depend on cutting them off completely.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

We'll figure it out as soon as kremlin collapses URSS-style in 2025/26.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

This is good news, although I wonder why they don't just vote to reunite with Romania instead. Moldova really doesn't need to be its own country. It basically exists because of Russian "separatists".

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm curious about this too. I'd be interested in a informed opinion by someone from Romania or Moldova that could share their insight.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

It is a really fragile topic, at least for moldovans and I'd say it is mostly due to ideological reasons. A lot of moldovans do not identify themselves as romanians and this is due to 2 main reasons:

  • Lots of them are not romainians, but descendants of relocated russians or other nations from USSR many of which to this date don't speak a word in Romanian;
  • USSR cultivated the idea that Moldovans are not Romaninas and that Moldova was there long before Romania (which is a stupid argument as Romania was formed after uniting multiple historical regions including Moldova);

Out of these reasons Moldova had and has a huge debate over the existence of Moldovan language, just recently the constitution was updated stating that the state official language is Romanian. Within Moldova at this point there is the Moldovan dialect which differs a lot from other Romanian dialects, even the Moldovan dialect from within Romania, where Moldovan dialect has a mixture of russian/ukranian words.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

So, as I said, Moldova exists because of Russia's divide-and-conquer tactics. Moldavia/Moldova has been part of Romania or its earlier polities for at least 2000 years. This would be like a hypothetical Donbas Republic voting to join an EU of which Ukraine is already a member. Why not rejoin the country it was part of before Russian imperialism broke it apart?

The linguistic thing needn't be an issue. Multilingual countries aren't exactly rare in the EU.