To be fair, he drained the swamp. We probably should've asked him if he'd fill it with raw sewage afterwords, but that's a different topic
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Man, I love The Good Liars. They are great at improv and quite adept at disarming Trump supporters and getting them to say stupid things.
With that said, the hallmark of the Trump presidency to me was that the good things he did were generally for the wrong reasons, like when he redeployed the US military from Syria and snatched money that was budgeted for various military projects to build his stupid wall.
He did some great things for the space program too. Probably because it sounded cool.
TBH, it's weird that you say that, but it makes perfect sense.
You... you stop it right there! With your "facts" and your "logic" and your "knowledge", don't you know that a brain 🧠, like a bowl 🥣, is most useful when empty!?
It's only ever been about vibes*, and that's totally good enough for these folks who have made Trump their identity. Trump could come right out and say that he has no plans at all, but that voting for him would make the libs and minorities and LBTQ+ folks upset... and his polling wouldn't change. It's only about the vibes*.
* "Vibes" is used here to mean thinly-veiled racism, sexism and bigotry
He has concepts of a plan
Allegedly.
you could just write hate instead.
don't worry, i can't name a single trump accomplishment either. unless you count making the obscenely wealthy even more obscenely wealthy, which was really the only thing he set out to do
Overturn RvW. He campaigned on this promise and he got it.
I'm not saying it as a gotcha but there are very much things he promised and he delivered on, many of which were done via very illegal and unconstitutional executive orders.
Other "accomplishments":
(Quick side note: I'm only counting policy based accomplishments. Things like hating on gays or hurting immigrants, while technically promises, I'm going to categorize as "legalized oppression".)
- deregulation of the Internet (Fuck Ajit Pai)
- "building" the "wall" and having Mexico "pay" for it, done primarily via tariffs that ended up hurting Americans more but his base didn't care (this one is a stretch but I'm counting it)
- simplified parts of the tax code that gave everyone a tax cut (ignoring the part that for lower and middle class this cut was often a few dollars while for the Uber rich it was thousands)
There are more but I need to get back to my date. 😅
He gave a wealthy donor a presidential medal of honor
trump: "no quid pro quo!!!"
also trump: nothing but quid for nothing but quo
Trump and his supporters are definitely weird sociopaths.
I’m dumbfounded as to how this election is so close. There is something fundamentally wrong with the democrat party that they are losing to him.
I wish dems would listen to their base instead of their donors. I hope Kamala wins but it’s not looking good.
"I did not expect a follow up question"
I was told there would be no fact-checking
lol are these actual quotes from an interview?
I've been watching a couple debates involving Trump supporters. They all do some version of this. "I like his policies" "ok, can you name a policy of his you approve of" they can never come up with any. In almost any other scenario this would be funny. It's hopeless.
It's what they aren't saying. Basically "I like that he hurts gays and brown people" doesn't sound good, they know it doesn't sound good, so they make up some other reason to support him that justifies the things they really want.
It’s exactly this. I read an editorial the other day (I’ll see if I can find it) from a canvasser that boiled down to Trump supporters are driven by hate and bigotry and you can’t fight that (at least not easily, or using tools politicians have fir campaigning). The facts don’t matter to people like this, only that someone in power validates and supports their hate for out-groups.
I think it’s more often « Culture is changing around me. The things I understand and my opinion are less relevant. I’m scared. This person/group lets me feel less guilty and confused. »
I agree it’s not « facts » related, it’s « feelings » related. The real challenge is finding a leader that can reach the « thinkers » and the « feelers ».
They say that but what they like is his rhetoric, which is more disturbing in my opinion.
Just like Sarah Palin's favorite newspapers.