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Removed Kbin.social communities (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Hello everyone,

Recently we have been dealing with a lot of spam from the kbin.social communities. There is a bug in kbin where moderation tasks are not federated to other instances. That means even if a moderator over at kbin removes a post, it will still be visible on Lemmy instances and it's up to the instance admins to clean it up.

There have been talks about this in the Lemmy admin channels with some instances considering defederating from kbin.social - and others who have already made that step.

We don't want to defederate, because we know this would impact the kbin community greatly - but we have to do something. That's why we have currently removed most of the kbin communities from Lemmy World, making them unavailable to our users. But the kbin users can still view and interact with our communities and users.

This means that those spam-accounts will stil be able to post in our communities too, but at least it makes the task of moderation already a little bit lighter on our team. But it was either this or defederation. The moderation tools on kbin are in an even worse state then Lemmy's.

We will keep monitoring the situation and will keep you up to date should anything change.

We hope you understand and support our decision.

The Lemmy World team

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Keep fighting the good fight boys. It's only a matter of time until either of these websites surpass all the others. Is there a way I can donate?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Understandable, but sucks. Hope it won't last long.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We have always been at war with Kbin.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you guys have a some sort of deadline for this kbin issue get fixed before defederating?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

i went to kbin the other day its not cool lile lemmy

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

That sounds reasonable. Thanks for not just slamming the door, frankly I wouldn't have blamed you if the reason is "hey, this adds a shitload of work". It's neat that this is an available workaround.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

That's a shame, but it is what needs to be done

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

So, that means no one from Lemmy.World can see https://kbin.social/m/functionalprint anymore?

This thread is now broken?

https://kbin.social/m/functionalprint/t/353785/Replacement-wheel-for-a-child-s-RC-car

Maybe I misunderstood, is it some kbin communities (for now) or all?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can see https://kbin.social/m/functionalprint just fine from my own lemmy.world account, if that helps.

This doesn't involve all of Kbin, just a select few communities that have been hosting waves of spam.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks for checking that.

Yeah, it does appear to be select communities so far. I know a few were spammy and even I blocked them.

Hopefully kbin developer will get a chance to update the tools/site so us moderators can help out and keep the spam controlled so it doesn't spill into other instances.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I think it would be a good idea to introduce limited Federation like what they have on Mastodon into lemmy, where communities from that Instance wouldn't be federated unless explicitly allowed by the Admins of the Instance who put said block in place. It wouldn't be good for all cases but it could work for ones like this where the communities are the problem and the majority of the users there are fine.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Is it all the communities? If theres still some kbin social communities on here, does that mean its probably not part of the troublesome communities and probably wont get removed?

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