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A school shooting videogame made by the parents of a victim aims to change minds about gun control: 'This is not a scary game, it's an educational game' (www.pcgamer.com)

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

uh no, i think the point would be that it's a scary game. This isn't a fucking beavis bacon teaches you typing simulator game.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Beavis teaches typing would probably be a riot

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

that would most certainly make for an interesting experience.

nice instance btw

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Reminds me of the opening scene of one of the CoD games where you just walk into an airport and start opening fire on random people. I did not continue playing that game.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 days ago (3 children)

IIRC you never actually have to shoot any of the civilians in that level, but as players we all assumed that you did. IMO that level was the most interesting commentary that has been made in the COD series because it (somewhat sneakily) put the onus onto the player. Most of us just assumed that we needed to gun down the civilians without choice. In my opinion its one of the more poignant moments in the entire series for how it handled such a grim story beat.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

By any chance, have you ever played Spec Ops: The Line? I feel you'd enjoy it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

Iirc in Germany the game was censored in a way that you lose the game if you actually shot someone.

[+] [email protected] -6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It wasn't some sort of ethical quandary. The point of the game is to shoot people.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago

I disagree. Point one, the point of COD games was always to be the "Good Guys™" defeating the "Bad Guys®" but this level has you doing Bad© Guy™ stuff... So do YOU do bad guy stuff because you've got to so you can do Good° Guy© stuff or do you abstain? This point is somewhat ruined by "The cops showed up, we gotta shoot them." Which then directly shows you the gameplay loop of the entire game and begs you not to engage with it.

Point two, Spec Ops: The Line, don't worry not the white phosphorus scene. In the refugee camp you need to disperse a crowd of unarmed refugees who are going to kill you. They've killed your squad mate and your other squad mate awaits your order. You open fire on the crowd and your squad mate says "What the FUCK? You didn't need to gun them down!" Jokes on you, the whole time you could've shot in the air and they would've run. You made the choice to gun them down despite not having weapons. The gameplay loop is "Shoot bad guys because they shoot at you" not "shoot anything you feel threatened by."

The point of the game can be anything. The gameplay loop is to shoot enemies to win levels. The point was that unarmed civilians aren't enemies. Are cops though?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

This game makes me SMILE because it SHOWS me that TRANS KIDS EXISTING are WORSE then LITERALLY BEING GUNNED DOWN!

-Pro Life Republicans trying to Protect The Children!

[–] [email protected] 90 points 1 week ago (74 children)

Oof... Man, to live in the US. I don't envy you guys, though things aren't really going the right direction here in the Netherlands, either.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It sound like most didn't read the article. You aren't playing as the shooter, it is a horror game where you are the victim trying to escape and/or hide from the shooter.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago

I haven't read the article, probably won't, doesn't really interest me. But I thought the title pretty clearly implies you don't play as the shooter. I'm surprised others didn't interpret the same way.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 week ago (10 children)

I can't wait to see speed runners cheese it and completely miss its point :/

[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 week ago (3 children)

TBF, generally speedrunners start speedrunning games because they love it to death (ie. have played it through several times already) and want to start challenging themselves in new ways.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

...or the videogame is known to make views on youtube.

Anyway, this don't undermine the intention of the developer.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 week ago

No parent should go through what they have gone through. And they want to express that through a game. It is an incredible idea, especially because of interactivity of the medium. I always believe that art can help hold a mirror to the society and this game proves that.

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