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At @[email protected] , we make browsers. Powerful browsers, with more functionality than others, but still browsers.

What we are not is:

  1. An OS company.
  2. A search company.
  3. An ad company.
  4. An AI company.

None of our major competitors can really say the same. We focus on doing one thing really well.

If you like that, give us a try! If you are already with us, please share with your friends!

#Vivaldi #Windows #Mac #Linux #Android #Ios #AI

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

@[email protected] @[email protected] Would it be possible for you to create an AppImage or a Flatpak for Linux? :)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

@[email protected] @[email protected]

We have created a Flatpak for Linux already. It is currently experimental, but it is there.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

@[email protected] @[email protected] Oh wow, I wasn't aware of that. Thank you, I'll give it a try!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

@[email protected]

Do you plan to be able to separate website sessions between workspaces? I miss this, and it sounds like an obvious feature.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

@grymas_[email protected] @[email protected]

We will evaluate moving forward.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

@[email protected] @[email protected] your grouping of fanes is the best. Now you visit my feed, can you tell me how you do make money?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

@[email protected] @[email protected] thanks! That's does look good also (now I wonder how DuckDuckGo makes money ;)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

@[email protected] @[email protected] One thing that would make me switch immediately would be, if tab closing meant: delete everything, localstorage, cookies, indexdDB. Except for sites explicitly configured not to do this.

Duckduckgo has the fire button, but this decouples closing from deleting the data in a stupid way.

Firefox has delete on exit, which is OK on the desktop, but who closes an app, ever, actively?

Firefox is severely restricted on Apple stuff by their policies. Same for Vivaldi?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

@[email protected] @[email protected] I gave #Vivaldi a crack but it wouldn't let me have a seamless experience between Android and desktop (macos). I don't think I could even use bitwarden on mobile which instantly stopped my testing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

@[email protected] @[email protected] A proprietary front end on top of chromium? Thanks but no thanks.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

@[email protected] @[email protected] Oh,I respect that big time.

However, you're using the #Google #webbrowser engine which we all should not use any more to avoid a really really bad #monopoly. 😞

I'll stick with #LibreWolf for the moment.

#Vivaldi #Chrome #Chromium #Firefox

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] nice to know what you don‘t do to earn money but what do you do to keep the lights on? 🤔

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] Thanks, that‘s exactly the post I was looking for. 😁 Every company/organization should have something similar if it‘s not obvious.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

@[email protected] @[email protected]

I guess we have not had so much requests for it. We try to make Vivaldi available everywhere we can, but for us to add a platform is a major undertaking.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

@[email protected] @[email protected]

Not really familiar with that, but if it runs in other browsers, it should in Vivaldi as well.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

@[email protected] @[email protected] Two things keep me from switching to Vivaldi, setting aside Chromium at its core:

  1. It keeps prompting me to enable notifications every time it updates, after I've already said no. Do not want.
  2. Bug VB-107923 (I have a confirmation email, but no URL to cite).
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

@[email protected] @[email protected]

I nudged on the 2nd bug, but the first one I have not seen. If you can provide a bug with a description, that would be great!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

@[email protected] @[email protected] Appreciated, thanks! I'll keep an eye out for the notification prompt again.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

@[email protected] @[email protected] I used Vivaldi for several years. Sadly, something happened that I had to switch to more mainstream browsers (Chrome and Firefox). I will give it a try again, though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

@[email protected] don’t you have a mastodon instance? And an email client? And a feed reader? And a calendar?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

@[email protected]

Vivaldi has a lot of features you do not find in any browser. You mention some of them. We do have an email client, feed reader and calendar. We also have very powerful tab handling, mouse gestures, keyboard shortcuts and quick commands. We even have web panels. So we are very feature rich. We also provide sync functionality between the different browsers, which is fully encrypted. And we are proud to be the only browser company to have our own Mastodon instance. We also provide blogs and forums as well as a way to share themes. We are very focused on bringing what our users want.

Our users are not asking us to be an OS company. They want us to support their OS.

Our users are not asking us to be a search company. There are other, good options out there.

Our users clearly do not want us to be an ad company.

And our users are clear that AI is not something they want us to integrate. If they want to use AI, they can use AI services out there. No need to integrate it.

So we focus on what people want and we are proud of it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

@[email protected] Being anti-AI feels like a weird blanket product "strategy" but good luck!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

@[email protected]

We basically focus on what our users want. If we were public, there might be a focus on just doing what others are doing, to get funding. That is not where we are. We just focus on what people need and as you mentioned, it is a lot.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

@[email protected] @[email protected] you are also not open source and beholden to stakeholders

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

@[email protected] @[email protected] when I have to have a Chromium based browser I only use Vivaldi.

I would say I prefer Firefox but their self inflicted wound of pursuing AI is a complete and total betrayal and turn off.

I'm glad you folks are out there.

As others have said I wish you were built on Firefox because Mozilla has faults but Google can KMA.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

@philip_[email protected] @[email protected]

Ideally we would have liked to build our own core, but having done that before, we knew that would not be viable.

So we were left with basically two choices and the safest bet was Chromium. We feel this is a strong codebase and having had to deal with compatibility issues in the past, we feel this was the best choice we could make.

We do a lot of work to make this Chromium based release as strong as possible. We have features not found in any other browser and we have more settings and flexibility than any other browser. We do listen as well.

Thanks for your support.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

@[email protected] @[email protected]
love your Browser . The only thing is that it logs me out and i don't won't it to

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

@[email protected] @[email protected]

Unlike some of our competitors, Vivaldi is only started when you start it yourself.

We will continue to work on speeding things up as much as we can.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

@[email protected] @[email protected] Besides a few annoying UX quirks, I love Vivaldi!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

@[email protected]
And based in Norway (EU, GDPR). Don't think other browser companies can say that either.
@[email protected]

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

@[email protected] @[email protected]

Hopefully you'll be independent for years to come.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

@jon @Vivaldi I'd use it if it drops Chromium.

Firefox's browser engine is ripe for a fork and hoping that Vivaldi is considering this. :)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

@rom @Vivaldi

We made the choice to use Chromium. Changing that is not trivial and would be quite risky.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

@[email protected] Honest question: Given that you use Chromium, doesn't this make you completely downstream-dependent of Google?

I feel like "not being an ad company" is nice, but depending that much on an ad company isn't much better either.

@[email protected]