Ragebait headline - what he actually said was "A cavity is not a classic vagina" which is a completely different sentence, and correct.
Specifically designed to make you angry
this post was submitted on 15 Sep 2023
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He also said this
no skills to treat men, even if they have shaved their beards and come to tell my secretary that they have become women
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I only treat real women
Let's not pretend that the doctor wasn't acting transphobic.
The only reason a trans woman would go to a gynecologist is to raise a stink. No other reason, no "healthcare" reason. I hate people who go out of their way be to a "victim".
"There is no recommendation for a trans woman to have regular gynaecological check-ups, unless she has a surgical problem related to the operation, because she doesn't have a uterus or a cervix," she added.
Fucking drama queen.
Seriously, what's a gyno supposed to do? The parts they specialize in aren't there. I can't imagine being so pathetic that I go out of my way to cause problems for some random doctor.
Seriously, what’s a gyno supposed to do?
He could not say transphobic shit and call her a man.
Sure he was rude, but from the standpoint of his trade, she is a man. She has no female parts and that's the whole point of his job.
It's like handing an electrician a pipe wrench and saying "the wires are leaking, go tighten them up"
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"I told her that I'm not competent, but I can guide you. I can refer you to services that can take better care of you. But after I said that, things went south," gynaecologist Victor Acharian told Euronews.
Talk about the article just wanting to stir shit with the headlines. And so many of you are falling for it.
The comments about only treating "real women" and not men who "shave their beards" and "tell my secretary that they are a woman" are problematic
The patient needs to be educated about their body and the medical community needs to evolve to better serve trans people as well
Nothing they said is problematic or wrong. They care about sex, not gender. They’re medical professionals that deal with specific parts of the female reproductive system.
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I don't understand why someone without a vagina would go to a gynecologist.
I'm very trans friendly, and I agree. A gynecologist is there to help you with things related to your vulva, vagina, uterus, ovaries, fallopian tubes.... If you don't have any of those things, there is nothing a gynecologist can do for you.
gynaecology: the area of medicine concerned with disorders and functions of women's reproductive organs
Was she going there just for the experience or something? What was the end goal she was looking for here...
There is actually a chance to develop cancer in that region as a trans person. Also to check up hormon levels etc., there are a lot of valid reasons
This is just rage bait. The title is intentionally misleading.
The doctor replied with a message addressed to a "gentleman", claiming that he treated "real women".
He justified himself by saying that he had "no skills to treat men, even if they have shaved their beards and come to tell my secretary that they have become women".
what the fuck
Dr Acharian admits he lashed out with the online comments, but says his reasoning for not seeing the patient is still justified, and highlights an underlying problem for medical professionals.
"I reacted spontaneously, out of anger, and I felt I'd been unfairly attacked. I reacted with very clumsy words that may have offended. I'm well aware of that, I've expressed my regrets on several occasions," said Acharian.
good ol' trans panic defense 🙄
I don't know enough to say if it's valid for a gynecologist to not treat a trans person, but it's definitely not valid to be an absolute cunt about it. If you have a rational reason not to help them, cool, but you can explain that calmly and try to refer them to a place that can.
He did refer them.
He offered to, but the person ran off and raised a stink online instead of following the rational recommendation. Ahhhh, the 2020s. Good ol' keyboard warriors and their cancel culture.
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I have to ask: considering the profound surgical intervention required to aid a person transition, are there any life lasting specialized care needs to assure health? Or after normal surgery recovery that's it?
from what I know of a friend: There's some stretching required of the new vaginal entrance (medically prescribed dildos back in fashion!) and yes, trans women can potentially develop cancer much like their cis counterparts. Generally advised to get it checked every so often to make sure it's all up to snuff.
can potentially develop cancer much like their cis counterparts
No. Very much unlike their cis counterparts, a female transperson has no uterus, no fallopian tubes, or any other part commonly found in a vagina. They can develop topical cancers such as skin cancers or subdermal cancers as in literally any tissue anywhere in their bodies, but those are not cancers generally found during a pap-smear (which is the primary domain of a gyno). Any sufficiently skilled GP or dermatologist would be equally or better suited.
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And is that care provided by general practice gynecologists or specialized ones?
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This comment section is a warzone
This is certainly the most transphobic bigots I've seen in a thread on the Fediverse.
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im locking this as there are multiple reports of transphobia and bigotry. It appears the comments are devolving into personal attacks.
I see there's a lot of ignorant bigots in this comment section making claims without any actual knowledge on the topic.
From the Canadian Cancer Society: "If, however, you’re a trans woman who has had bottom surgery to create a vagina (vaginoplasty) and possibly a cervix, there’s a very small risk that you can develop cancer in the tissues of your neo-vagina or neo-cervix."
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