"times change"
Bro thinks 2007 was the Johnson administration.
this post was submitted on 25 Sep 2024
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I'm not sure what year blackface became for reals not okay. Definitely after the mid80s but also definitely before 2000
We knew it was wrong in the 90s, which is why edgelords like this dude (and Trudeau) were into it.
I place the limit of acceptability somewhere around Soul Man (1986).
People are saying in the 90s but I know we had a guy dressed as a terrorists with a brown face on Halloween day when I was in highschool back in 2002 and no one cared, but maybe it's because slavery isn't part of our history and that part of US culture hadn't influenced us yet... These days people like to act like it wasn't accepted for disguises around here 20 years ago even though it actually was. Hell, I know for a fact we even had some on TV after 2005 and no one cared...
People still think Group X is funny and not problematic at all
Never heard of that
Seriously, was blackface such a rampant thing in the aughts? It seems like everyone was doing it, but I wasn't aware of it at the time.
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Everyone already knows this is wrong in so many levels and I completely agree.
But also, how the hell is that 50 Cent?! 50 Cent isn't known for having an afro or wearing a Bullets jersey. Wear the G-Unit tank top, wear a head band, wear a baseball cap with a durag. Wear a bulletproof vest. At least have a higher quality piece.
Dafuq is this shit?
He's very racist
He was probably searching his memory for a cool black guy and he could only think of 50 cent
But he's exposed how stupid and ignorant he really is being because 50 cent's never had an afro
I don't know who this guy is, but his response seems ultra shitty.
Wondering if everyone else thinks this would have been a reasonable response: "it was a different time, black face wasn't seen as raciest in the circles i kept, i apologize for any offence i caused, it won't happen again"
I grew up in Texas and was taught that shit like that wasn't even remotely acceptable well before 2007.
Grew up in Virginia in the 90s and early 00s, and black face was definitely something people knew was racist.
However, my foster brother's elementary school hosted a costume party for thanksgiving one year, where you had to dress as either a pilgrim or an Indian. :/
Yeah, Indians and pilgrams were more acceptable; and, tbh, I still think it could possibly be considered acceptable if handled correctly, however neither kids nor their parents would likely put the effort in to do it right, so maybe it's for the better that "pilgrams and Indians" is dying out (I could also just be starting to get old and out-of-touch though, but I'm not that old; I'm trying to stay up-to-date I swear ;~;).
However, I also remember that painting your face to change your skin color for the purpose of imitating another race, regardless of your original color, was considered wrong (at least it was in my family) because it was a form of discrimination (this actually caused me a lot of confusion when I became aware of the idea that not all discrimination is equal, and that some discrimination is considered culturally acceptable if it's "punching up" or meant to even the playing field between races, cultures, sexes, etc).
I don't remember it too well, but I highly doubt it was handled well at all. On another occasion, I went as an Indian for Halloween one year*, but my parents were working that day, so I went to Awanas (a sort of church thing if you're not familiar) for a few hours before trick or treating. Turns out, Awanas doesn't allow costumes, but let me stay. As the only kid in costume. While the rest of them were super smug about not being in costume, and the main church dude spent the whole time talking about how Halloween is evil. No one even mentioned the racist ass costume I was in.
*Yes. With dark make up. I was 9. That was also the last year I ever dressed up for Halloween. My dad still doesn't fully get why that wasn't an okay costume. My mom didn't understand at the time, but does now.
I was also a hobo one year. Maybe we should start vetting kids Halloween costumes. Or at least mine.
TBH I went to school in Mansfield and they were still doing "Slave For A Day" until the mid 90s until someone pointed out it was mostly Black freshman being picked.
It was supposed to be a "fun" way to raise funds for whatever school program, and also for freshman to see a senior classroom. When your school district has a history of being one of the last districts to be forced to desegregate, though...
If you did blackface after the release of Bamboozled, no pass.
assume your talking about https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0215545/, never saw it
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It was a different time... 2007 π€£
That response is certainly better. The type of person to wear blackface is also the type of person who wouldn't apologize, though.
His response could've only been worse/better if he had said "sorry, I learned from my prime minister".
Though at least JT acknowledged it was wrong lol
I think just about anything would be better than what he said.
I wouldn't say that it was a different time, or anything about the circles I kept.
I'd go with:
Clearly, I was ignorant of the harm my costume could cause. In the seventeen years since that photo, I've learned a lot about Canada's history of racism and how harmful stereotypes further marginalized racialized Canadians. If I had better understood the iniquity that racialized Canadians faced, and continue to face, I never would have engaged in what I now recognize and denounce as a gross and harmful caricature.
My detractors imply that people can't change. They're wrong. People can change, and our town can change. I work hard to make this a thriving, welcoming community and I know that we shouldn't let anyone distract us from the important work we have to do.
Leftist extremists??? More likely someone he treated badly in high school finally hitting back.
It was on the ex-wife's blog that was allegedly hacked. Something tells me it wasn't hacked.
Lol 2007 wasn't 100 years ago. We knew blackface was wrong in 2007
A guy I went to HS with did it in '05 on Halloween. Ironically also dressed as 50 cent which is supposedly what this guy was going for (the guy from my HS pulled it off way better tank top, bulletproof vest, doo rag and in shape vs whatever this guy was going for) The kid was fairly popular, and had a lot of black friends that gave him the OK to do it. No one really cared. If anything people couldn't believe it was him because he pulled it off so well. That guy can never get into politics now though, as I'm sure someone would dig up that photo.
Literally: "It's their fault for showing everyone proof of this shitty things I did."
How is black face even a thing in Canada tho... That's American brain-damage...
The brain damage seems to leak from the skull into the hat.
Canada is the US, just 5 - 10 years behind
That must have taken a long time to plan and apply. And that whole time he just kept thinking it was a good idea...
That's what I was thinking. Most of the time when I see these black face photos surface the make up is like super patchy, clearly applied as like a last minute goof.
This shit looks professionally done. Look how well it's done on his hands especially. This took hours and at no point did he think "mayhap, just mayhap, I should consider a different costume, given I clearly have political aspirations"
The blackface merits the disappointment, but wow the gold teeth and chains take this to a whole other level.
It's actually so bad. It's like racist stereotype bingo
Is it "anonymous antisemitic, anti-law enforcement, right wing extremists" that keep bringing up the Justin Trudeau blackface photos?
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