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I have been using Logitech peripherals for years. Logitech gear always just worked.

Now they demand internet accounts to use the features of the keyboard and mouse that I purchased. WTF?

Not only that, have to use wide-open-to-snooping Chrome to adjust the settings. You cannot adjust/use your mouse and keyboard if you just use Firefox.

This only makes sense if they are planning (or are already) tracking my every move online to sell to advertisers or spooks.

What are the good options?

Also, if anybody sees how these changes could be benign, please let me know.

EDIT:

By popular demand:

The keyboard I bought that started this journey: MX Keys S

The key feature that first demanded cloud access: Swithing between computers, now it is requires it to adjust the receivers. I have both a Bolt and a Unifying receiver.

Mouse (actually a trackball) that now is requesting that I use a Chrome Browser to adjust it: M570

Software:
The Logi SetPoint Settings I open from Windows now requires you to log into your Logitech account to make changes to your Unifying or 2.4 ghz usb receiver. This link takes you to a screen that says Logi Web Connect. It does not work unless you use the latest version of Chrome, Edge, & Opera, but reccomends Chrome for the best experience.

Logitech + used to require this to enable options, but I don’t see it on my Windows computer anymore. It is still on my Mac, but upon opening it to confirm for this message, it seems to be announcing that it is now able to incorporate AI into everything I type. (ugggh)

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[–] subignition@fedia.io 3 points 2 months ago

Haven't looked at their newer stuff so it's possible they are enshittifying too, but Das Keyboard has been a reliable low-frills brand for me for years (get one with blank keys if you really want to hone your touch typing skills!)

Don't have any suggestions on mice. I'm using a Razer

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I have boycotted Logitech since they started pushing Logitech Download Assistant through Windows Update, as soon as you plug a Logitech device into your Windows computer you get the program Logitech Downlod Assitant that you can't uninstall or easily stop running.

So I got myself a Xtrfy M4 and later the Xtrfy M4 Wireless, they require zero program to configure it, it's brilliant!

Last week I got myself a Pulsar Xlite V3, it needs a program to configure it, but it is manually installed, require no internet connection and saves the config to the mouse.

As for keyboards, I am a huge fan of Ducky keyboards, they just work for me.

For my audio, I use a Röde Videomic Go II, no software needed, but Röde central is used to configure it, it acts as a soundcard that I connect my Philips X2HR Fidelio headphones to.

It works brilliantly!

[–] kbal@fedia.io 2 points 2 months ago
[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I bought a logitech G502 mouse on a whim because my Razer Naga died (still pissed about it) and I needed a replacement. I hate it. I hate the software you have to use to get the fucking buttons to work, and I wish another company made a mouse like the Razer Naga. (I'm not buying another fucking razer product if I can help it, wasn't the first razer product to just stop working on me)

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I wish Logitech didn't discontinue the g600 (12 side button MMO mouse), I've got like 4 of them but they're getting kinda janky and a little too software dependant.

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

That would be better than what I've got, but I'm not a fan of the MMO style 9/12 button panels.

Idk if it's an ADHD thing or what, but I tend to accidentally press the buttons if I don't have a place to rest my thumb. Same reason I can't use controllers with paddle style back buttons.

The specific attachment I liked on the Razer Naga was the one that had six buttons in two rows on the top, and a pad at the bottom for resting your thumb. It was perfect.

Edit: See the outermost panel. I've yet to find another mouse with one just like that. Even better was that they were automatically mapped to Numpad keys, which was great since my keyboard doesn't have them, but every application recognizes them.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I find the 12 button great for cycling through weapons/items/abilities in games without having to pull up a weapon wheel. Weirdly for an MMO I prefer the number row over numpad, better for hotbars.

Every Naga I've had died except for my old non-RGB Magma, still have it in a drawer I think. It had a nice switch on the bottom to go from numpad to num row modes.

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Naga would be the ultimate gaming accessory if it didn't have a tendency to just fucking die one day

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Logitech devices do not need such drivers under Linux...

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[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

I use the 8BitDuo NES keyboard. It's great, albeit not for everyone.

I still have a small fleet of M570 trackballs in service, I keep having to swap out the switches but what else is my soldering iron doing, amirite? My keyboard is from Cooler Master, a Masterkeys Pro M White LEDs, and they never made bloatware for it. The lights are configurable from the keyboard itself. That's the kind of thing I look for.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Custom mechanical keyboard, and older Logitech mice.

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