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Me (14y male from Poland) got my english teacher annoyed/disappointed after saying the word "crap". I'm unsure if this is the right place to ask this question but is saying that word considered bad? I always thought it was pretty mild and not a big deal.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is fairly mild and not a big deal, but most people probably wouldn't want their 5 year old daughter saying it to their great aunt Mary.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

It's definitely not mild enough for a 14 year old to say in front of their teacher at school.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

It is not an appropriate word to use when talking to a teacher, no. A "pretty mild" swearword is still a swearword.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Context matters, to your friends or friends parents, probably okay. To someone you should be showing respect like teachers, probably never going to go over well.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It was like this. I made a mistake in an excersize and said "oh crap". Although you are right not to say that to a teacher, but saying it the way I did should be fine, right?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

More the location at that point, that’s schoolyard talk not classroom at that point. But out of earshot in the school yard too haha

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

It's a little extreme but not unheard of for folks to be upset with, especially in classroom settings.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Knowing that English is a second language for you, she's probably trying to help you!

Maybe assume that your English teacher knows a bit more about the language and how and when to use it than you.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

you should avoid swearing at all in formal settings

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It is a little bit. It's not exactly not swearing

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

but is it exactly not not swearing?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Same realm as "Dang" and "Darn". Someone getting mad about it is just trying to tone police.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It's a slightly less harsh version of "shit". I don't know where you're from, but it's absolutely considered a swear word in Britain and much less tolerated than "dang" or "darn" lmao

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Nah, you're just gonna get pegged as someone with little language skills who has a bad attitude. It's one thing if you don't care but calling everything crap at work, especially if you have customers or a partner in the room absolutely makes a poor impression. You should really use it in a professional setting only when you've thought through the impact.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Ok maybe not, but you don't talk about pooping in class. Crap is the same usage. It not swearing, just not applying to talk about

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

It's a less vulgar version of shit. You wouldn't use it in an email, but when talking it generally isn't a big deal.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not a bad word, but it's not a good word either, is it?

It's always easier to replace a habit than it is to stamp it out, so I try to teach my kid age-appropriate cusses. He's five, so I encourage him to lean on Adventure Time-style creative un-curses, as:

"Finn, this is dirtballs."

"Aw figs."

"This is totally dumptrucks."

"What the lump?"

And the usual stuff like 'fiddlesticks' and 'dagnabbit' are reliable.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Crap is already an un-curse though lol.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

You could argue that.

Instead of splitting hairs about what's a curse and what isn't, I tend to go by whatever is most cute to hear from a kid.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

In the UK it's considered a slightly less vulgar version of shit.

Maybe an English teacher in England knows better than someone that has English as a second language or an American.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

In the US, it is also condidered a slightly less vulgar version of shit.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Extremely less vulgar, what are y'all on lmao.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Maybe crap has different cultural connotations where I'm from because it's definitely not a slightly less vulgar version of shit. It's extremely less vulgar. Or maybe you need to go ask that English teacher what the definition of slightly is.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I raised my children not on the word, but the intention of the word. When they were saying "crap you" they meant "fuck you", and once they were made aware of it they stopped (saying it in front of me, anyway lol). So be aware that people will pick up on the intention and not necessarily the word.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

My brother and I kinda woke up to the ideology of intention with expletives back when we were coming out of college. We were raised not to swear, so we didn’t for the most part, but then we thought about intention and the true meaning and effect of words and we kinda decided that for us as adults who can read a room and understand intent, we didn’t care about swearing anymore. Most of our social settings it was fine and we knew when to stop for the people around us so they weren’t uncomfortable.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I wouldn't use it in formal conversation. It's not bad per se but it's something that has a negative connotation and you usually look for kinder language in that setting.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In the US (not UK, sorry!) It is entirely dependent on the family that raised you. In some households it's just another word, and in others it is a curse word. In my experience the households that consider it a curse are less common.

This caught me off guard when I was roughly your age and got in trouble for it when visiting a friend. I thought it was a regular word and was scolded in front of others for it. I had no clue what was going on because nobody would tell me what word it was for a while.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I don't know of anyone that doesn't think of it as a very mild "bad word" in the US, and I've lived across most of the country. Growing up in a very permissive household can mask that, but if you look it up in the dictionary you'll find it labeled "mildly vulgar" or something similar.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Try saying "merde" next time in thick French accent.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Like others have said, it's a swear word but pretty mild. boot really appropriate for a classroom.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The funny thing was in my first year going to public school (intermediate) crap would actually get you in trouble lol I thought it was pretty bad for a long time because of that

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

We used to use that word in year 4 back in the 90s. The teachers didn't mind, and surprisingly even my super strict parents weren't bothered by it. It's pretty mild. I wouldn't let a younger kid use it, but it's okay to hear imo.

What was the context you used it in?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

"You're the English teacher, what word or words should I consider using instead?"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I wouldn't say it's offensive or anything, its basically just a more family friendly take on 'shit'.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I think it's outrighteous that your teacher does not take organizations like CRAP seriously, mobile phones are a real threat to yougsters and society at large and we should do something about it!

By the way, has anyone seen my carrier pidgeon? 🐦

Video for context:

https://youtu.be/jmqZW9e5sZA?si=3Q1KDOHivSsT33F0

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

To all the Americans posting in this thread:

Despite our languages both being English, there are cultural differences. Please kindly fuck off with your opinions, I don't go to American threads and tell people what is or isn't OK to say in your country.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Don't be a jerk, there are much more effective ways of saying this.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't they toss around the word cunt like it's a core subject of every sentence in the UK? And your teacher is worried about crap? Lol.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There is a big difference between formal and casual settings.

Are you at the pub with your friends? Sure, swear until you can't swear anymore.

Are you in the workplace, around kids or having dinner with your uptight famiy? Probably smart to watch your language.