"It is unambiguous clear that our message is toxic and the majority of people reject our ideology and us with it. Therefore, the most logical solution is to create an artificial narrative via manipulation and vote-buying that makes it appear that people like us." -these people probably
Well, it worked with the news.
It also worked with Reddit. The Palestine discourse there is utterly repulsive and gleefully genocidal.
Is it really that bad? I haven't been on Reddit in over a year.
worldnews is absolutely surreal and awful. Country specific subreddits are also getting worse and worse.
Holy shit you're not wrong. I just browsed the top of the week on World News for a good twenty minutes and there wasn't a single post about the thousands of civilians that have been killed. I didn't see a single pro Palestine post and anybody talking about the literal war crimes being committed over there we're just downvoted. I think I agree with your word choice of "surreal." It feels like straight up propaganda and they are all falling for it. Every post about Israel was just saying something about how they're taking out the terrorists.
This is what they do in real life too though. They know the US is mostly liberal (based on the popular vote) so they have to abuse money and historical power to manipulate the votes into their favor.
You're telling me I could be getting paid for this shit?
"How dare the left accuse us of fascism, they're the fascists! Now c'mon everyone, let's conspire to fake vote totals so we can assert authority we didn't earn."
There absolutely no way this isn't an ad for upvote buying services lol this is so insane and transparent and the worst part is it'll work
It screams Steve Bannon.
Keen observation skills. I wouldn’t have caught on, I’m sad to say.
Have to respect someone getting in on grifting conservatives without even endorsing their views in the process.
Honestly, there's and endless sea of grift attempts going on at all times. You don't think people selling fake gold Trump coins, etc give one damn about his politics, do you? They're just trying to wring every penny out of the die hards
Last presidential election here in Brazil there were some some traffic light salesman selling towels with the presidential candidates. And they walked around with a score board showing which one had sold more. And they sold a lot more because people didn't want to see their beloved candidate on the losing side.
Man, the cash I could make with flexible ethics.
Does they encourage people to buy upvotes in friendly subreddits? Either they are not friendly or them buying internet points is even more useless than I thought.
“Our opinions are wildly unpopular to the point where even if a bunch of us showed up we’d struggle to make a difference so we’re gunna need to buy upvotes!”
Like…c’mon.
The right may not have good ideas, organizational skills, charm, ethics, understanding of economics, history, or politics, or strength in numbers, but they do have the one thing more important than all of these.
Money!
Have you seen the content there?
Yeah they're gonna need lots of money to get any attention
Oh wow, so it's basically a content farm for /r/TheRightCantMeme
Fuckin’ yikes.
Gasp, you all surely don't believe that conservatives would ever engage in voter manipulation tactics... r-r-right!?
Busing in those upvotes again?
"We're victims!!! 😭😭😭"
Karli can suck a fat dick
Everyone with a Reddit account, let's sell upvotes to conservatives on Jordan_Peterson_Memes. It's income redistribution with zero impact.
Point me to the sign up sheet
something something not your personal army
also fuck trump
You're thinking Anonymous.
Also fuck Trump
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Brb gonna sell some upvotes and not actually do anything lol
Show me your ways wise man
It’s easy; you just go on the internet and tell lies
You really think someone would do that, just go on the internet and tell lies?
You ai bots aren't fooling me!
I have never lied on the Internet.
Mostly.
You wouldn't!
Counter argument: Reddit is predominately American. These upvote sites use low cost foreign slave labor to generate their output. Buying upvotes is outsourcing jobs. Keep Reddit American. Don't buy upvotes!
I'm not American and I am a Redditor!
I cringe every time I see someone like this say “to oblivion.”
Really? Is that really necessary? Why so consistently specific?
Lol. What’s truth social stock worth today? 12 cents and a bucket of chicken wing bones?
Reddit culture (and lemmy by extension) changed so much in a short time. Just a few years ago you weren't downvoted just because someone disagreed with your opinion. The polarization and culture war turned reddit users completely dogmatic and as immune to arguments or facts as magats.
The same is true of lemmy. Most users prefer to defederate from socialist instances because "tankies". Which really shows how right wing "limbrols" have become. They hate socialists with a different viewpoint on US empire more than they hate fascists. The fascists have succeeded in utterly destroying reddit and lemmy as a platform for useful political discourse.
We now have the vast majority of "liberals" on lemmy upvoting comments using racist slang terms for Russians to dehumanize them, just like they did for enemies in Japan, Vietnam or Korea. The fascists have made massive inroads.
The OP meme almost seems quaint to me now. The real culture war is elsewhere now.
Upvotes and downvotes have always been glorified agree/disagree buttons.
Most users prefer to defederate from socialist instances because “tankies”.
To the degree that people bother to defederate from anything (most users don't) I would assume its because apologists for Putin and China are about as odious to talk to as MAGAs
Just a few years ago you weren’t downvoted just because someone disagreed with your opinion.
Lol what? What year did you join Reddit? As someone who's been there since 2008, I promise you that this is nothing new.
Not sure what year but the culture definitely changed somewhere around 2008-2016. A big part was trump of course, but before that the rise in android and iphone and becoming more popular to a broader segment of the public (e.g. "boomers"). Before it was tech enthusiasts all on desktop PC. This was also before toxic gamer culture.
If you don't think it changed you must have trauma induced amnesia.
This might be the funniest thing I’ve seen today.
Just more conservatives casually admitting that they can't win anything without rigging the vote.
There's no way buying upvotes is illegal right?
It's against Reddit's ToS, but as far as I'm aware there's no law that says you can't pay to manipulate social media content.
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