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Picture of A wildlife photographer marked "The rest of the church" taking pictures out of the frame towards a text marked "Women getting abortions" While prominently in the backgrounds there are two rhinos fucking, the fucker is marked "Priests" and the fuckee "Children"
Boy am I glad this thread went down the way it did. Thank you Lemmy! Your heart is close to mine. This is something that's been missing on Reddit for a while. ♥️🙌
Now do "What would the world be better off without?" 🤭
The Catholics that I know, aren't strictly against abortion.
The catholics that I know, are strictly against abortion.
They do care. And lots of clergy have been excommunicated over it. Turns out pedos like to get jobs where they interact with kids.
Also, it's fucking baby murder.
Hey, you're entitled to your opinion. I've been treated like shit for saying I think the limit should be 16 weeks instead of 24. It is a spectrum, and all sides have valid arguments, which is why this is such a divisive matter. Some people say masturbation is killing potential lives. Some people say that there should be no limit for abortion, abort whenever.
I understand your point, you think terminating a human life is wrong, which is a natural human response. I think most people also feel the same way, but they give more importance to other matters. Maybe you should try understanding the people in the other positions of the spectrum. Sometimes people make mistakes at a young age (kids are very dumb), women get raped, families can't financially take care of a new child, birth control fails... It's easy to judge them until you're in their position.
Here's the thing, I get it. The condom breaks, birth control fails, shit happens. But it's still murder. If someone gets drunk, and accidentally kills someone, they don't get let off the hook. If they build something, and they fuck up, and someone dies, that's homicidal negligence, and they aren't let off the hook. In almost every abortion case, it's due to making mistakes at a young age (kids are very dumb), women getting raped, families can’t financially take care of a new child, birth control fails, just like you said. And that's no excuse for homicide. Only real thing is self-defense, and I guess you can argue that if the mother's life is truly in danger.
They do care.
About getting caught. And keeping it going.
And lots of clergy have been excommunicated over it.
First of all: Oh no! Excommunicated! We're gonna have our pretend sky friend not like you anymore, but only because we could no longer successfully cover it up, so we look bad! How about proactively turned in to law enforcement with evidence? How about the institution that let it happen proactively paying restitution to the victims? How about not just transferring the pedo to another parish to fuck more children with the church's blessing, which is what usually happens.
Second of all: Let's see a source for all these "excommunications." The exceedingly rare times I've seen clergy punished by the church, it's just defrocking, not even excommunication. This indicates that the church believes there's a special place in heaven for pedos. And remember, you said "lots." I expect lots. I shouldn't easily be able to counter with even more instances of churches covering up for their pedo clergy.
Turns out pedos like to get jobs where they interact with kids.
Particularly when they are shielded form real world consequences by their complicit employers.
We should tax these pedo factories and use the money to fund abortions and gender affirmation surgeries.
Do you think banning abortion stops it from occurring? Because I have bad news for you.
The goal isn't to stop abortion. The goal is to control women and enable rapists.
@can @Blamemeta so do the 10000s of Irish women who used to come to the UK from Ireland for it. Poor women.
Banning murdering adults didn't stop that happening, but it's still on the books.
yeah but most anti-abortion people pair it with being anti-sex-education, sometimes even anti-conctraception - you know, the thing which actually reduces the need for abortions
so they set a trap for their kids to walk into, and act shocked when people get pregnant young, and then force them into having children before they can self-actualize which is what they actually wanted anyways.
also the bible gives directions for giving abortions. These people are worshipping the GOP instead of GOD
I'm not a christian. I'm agnostic.
It's a problem when other clergy cover for pedophiles instead of bring them to justice.
You can feel however you want about abortion, but I believe that telling others how to live their lives based on your personal feelings is against their personal freedoms.
Okay, can I come over and murder your kids? Its only personal feelings.
Nope, Deuteronomy clearly states that it's only OK to murder your own kids, and that's only if they're being rebellious.
really telling on yourself, neither bible nor science say abortion is murder. Only the GOP say that
I like the way you articulately debated your opinion on this subject without getting your feeling hurt and lashing out with an attack.
I wasn't aware it was a debate. I was just replying to an absurd take with another absurd take.
This is the level of delusion and complete disconnection from reality that I have come to expect from Catholics.