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Mushroom discovery (lemmy.world)
submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

That was a roller-coaster...

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[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Well, IIRC there were stages to trying new things, kinda like:

Test 1: rub plant on forearm, see if it has a reaction. Test 2: eat small piece of plant/thing to see reaction Test 3: eat progressively larger pieces and rinse and repeat

This is probably only in survival situations

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

knowing how cruel humans can be, need to add:

  • force feed enemy or captured animal -> wait and see
[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Dogs and kids are also suitable test objects.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I feel like dogs and kids are best described as ultra voluntary test subjects, they will try their damndest to eat the thing and you can certainly try your best to stop it.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Oh, yeah definitely, haven’t thought of that before haha

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

They’d also dilute them in water and drink progressively less dilute solutions. Also, as other people mentioned, notice what other bugs and animals are eating.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Smart smart, it’s crazy how much you can figure out when you know what to look for

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Someone must have developed that technique though - most likely through trial and error.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago
[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

If I remember correctly, iirc

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

YDIFRC (You do, in fact, remember/recall correctly.)

[-] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago

It's also more realistic to think that humans gained this knowledge from their ancestors. It's more likely humans learned these things from other humanoid species

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Sometimes I think about things like this when it comes to cheese and fermented stuff. Like, who was the first guy to work out that you can get rotten food and either get high off it or get tasty stuff out of them?

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Actually there's interesting theory how eating magic mushrooms speeded or even shaped development of consciousness in our ancestors.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Stoned Ape Theory, but it's most likely just speculation.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

You mean it is speculation, and is most likely false

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Love me some home grown shrooms, undried is the best trip.... Great for a migraine too..

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

At some point if you're starving enough it's eat this and maybe die or don't eat this and definitely die

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

i grow mushrooms outside and do some foraging.

if a mushroom is covered in bugs it's probably edible. centipedes, fungus gnats, and slugs are all common on my outdoor beds.

there are a few edible fungi i don't see bugs eat, like meatier varieties such as shiitake and saddle backs, but i have never seen bugs go after poisonous fungi

some bugs will eat psychedelic fungi just like some animals will. but there tends to be less predation with them.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I read somewhere this is how humans most likely learned what is good and bad to eat. Just need to see something else eating it and it's most likely good.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Except theres lots of berries birds can eat but we don't

[-] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago

I'm also a forager and I think this is a very dangerous and irresponsible thing to say.

Please never rely on that advice if you ever go mushroom foraging. There is no short cut here.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

i said probably and my point was made in the context of the meme. it wasn't advice on safe foraging but an observation on how early humans may have made intelligent guesses before we had reliable guide books and the internet.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Think about how much shit you have to do to make cheese. Or bread.

How did people figure that shit out? At some point I have to think that people were just mixing everything together and seeing what happened. Sometimes they made tasty food. Sometimes they made something useful. Sometimes they made poisonous gas. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Why did my mind automatically imagine the guy trying to find how to make farts edible

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

There are old mushroom hunters and bold mushroom hunters. But no old, bold mushroom hunters.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Don't the poisonous ones specifically taste bitter

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

IDK. I never ate one. You wanna try it and report back?

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The supposed logic here is that the human genes that liked the taste of some toxic plants died out.

It can help in a survival pinch to weed out your options but I wouldn’t rely on it as a guaranteed truth.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

I don't think so but they take 48 to 72h to kill you though

[-] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

The psylocibin containing ones also only make you "see god" for about 6-8h, too. Not a very scientific meme, but funny.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Hear me out, what if the Bible prophecies and the whole concept happened because they tried something new and were just trippin out?

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Crazy enough, the Bible wasnt written all at once. The Bible was written over a span of approximately 1,300 years (depending on your historical, linguistic, and theological beliefs of course).

  • The Old Testament, also known as the Hebrew Bible, was written between approximately the 12th century BC and the 2nd century BC.
  • The New Testament was written in the first century AD, from approximately AD 50 to AD 100.

So probably a bit of the old testament could have been written while under the influence of mushrooms as that's when we were experimenting with wild mushrooms.

But what do I know, the picture says I died from mushrooms.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Lmao I literally did a double take with your name and the post

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Oh great, u r still alive! Mow the timeline is fuck up, thanks KEVIN

[-] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Literally ever time I'm tripping I always think the whole religion thing is just so people have some inspiration to drawn from if it starts going bad.. like call in an angel or some shit to save your ass

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