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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Stayed at an Airbnb last year where I left a ~4 star review taking off one star because of excessive noise from the bus stop outside (otherwise positive). Couple months later I get an email saying my review was removed for violating Airbnb policy. Had to contact support where they told me the host had submitted (fake) WhatsApp screenshots of me asking them for money to post a positive review and so they removed my review. No matter what I said customer support refused to reinstate my review. The most alarming thing is that they removed my review without any input from me. Interestingly, the property had added additional co-hosts where that property was their only property after my stay. Presumably these are fake profiles they used to file the dispute so it wouldn’t impact their main account.

In any case, I am never staying at an AirBnb again. Be aware that any rating on AirBnb can be easily manipulated by the host.

Also if you have status at a hotel, perks like room upgrades and late checkout are invaluable.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Value proposition isn’t there anymore either, airbnbs used to be super affordable but now match the price of hotels and if they don’t are in inconvenient locations.

Not to mention the impact it has on local housing supply and pricing.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Pricing is still relevant, at least in Europe (from my experience). I've done a lot of low-budget traveling with small groups of students in France this year, and AirBnB was (unfortunately) consistently and significantly less expensive than hotels.

Also, many hotels don't give you access to a kitchen, which really sucks if you don't want to spend money eating out every day.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Unfortunately, the pricing still makes sense for larger groups of people.

There are far too many of these leeches taking up valuable housing in the most desirable part of my city

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I can’t find a place to rent, but oh boy! look at all these temp stay airbnbs owned by vacation companies, my bad guess I should own a house.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Dang so all I have to do to scam is have another WhatsApp account and send myself threatening messages 😯

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Turn your chicken coop into a 5 star Airbnb listing with one simple trick!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Praxis would be to weaponize this and get your room comped while your staying at the Airbnb by having the host threaten you while your in the room. Karen's have taught me to fight these fuckers at their own games just for the trill

Sorry brainstorming

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Be aware that any rating on AirBnb can be easily manipulated by the host.

This is the same reason that Yelp is bullshit. And Amazon reviews. And pretty much any reviews you can find online. It's why people used the reddit search flag. Everything is gamed and manipulated. People suck.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

now we can't even us reddit anymore

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Which is why reddit has been a target for gorilla marketing campaigns for a while now. I only trust review sites that I follow now

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also at a hotel: “It smells like smoke.” “Let me take you conveniently to another identical room for free.”

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Or any problem, really. I once had to move rooms twice because the AC wasn't working. In an Airbnb, you're boned

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

AirBNB is only good if it is an extremely unique/convenient location and there are no hotels reasonably nearby. Otherwise Hotel absolutely > AirBNB

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

My problem is that people talk as if these are the only options.

There are other services, like VRBO, that do the same thing and usually have the same properties. AirBNB is garbage now, so just use an alternative that doesn't have the same bad policies and high fees.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

225 a night hotel would be a freaking dream. Most hotels cost 100 a night. I agree a cabin in the woods our somewhere else special.

But landlords are putting up ordinary homes up and people actually rent them. More money then sense.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

It’s useful for short term renting. I’m interning and it’s stupid hard to find a 3 month lease.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

AirBNB was great when it first started out. It was basically people renting out a room in their home for a night or two, for far cheaper costs than hotels and in areas where a hotel wasn't as readily available. It was a good way for those folks to make some cash on the side and helped the traveler find convenient low cost housing for a couple nights

Unfortunately companies and people decided they could buy up properties and start a business selling out rooms, prices skyrocketed and it no longer became worth it. I just stick to hotels now (or hostels if I ever decide to backpack through Europe or something)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The last few times I've used AirBNB it's been a pretty much like borrowing someones home.

For one we were travelling in Portugal and stayed in this old portugese lady's home in a small village along the coast. Really sweet lady, but a bit of a language barrier as she struggled with both english and spanish.

Next weekend me and some friends are renting a whole 4 bedroom summer house in southern Norway to use as a base for a weekend of diving.

But in general I've grown tired of the concept, and the scarcity it brings to the housing market in some cities is predatory.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm just here to say fuck air bnb. Ban that shit for it's contribution to the housing crisis.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In my neighborhood, half the houses are AirBnBs... Because we're close to tourist destinations. 4 of my 5 neighbors are AirBnBs.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

How do you even combat that ?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hotels are quite heavily regulated in all parts of their operation, many have unionized staff. AirBNB owners are wannabe landlords with no oversight.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tiny soapbox time: I don't trust AirBNB hosts to actually treat for bedbugs if they get them. I figure a reputable hotel chain at least has a fighting chance of taking it seriously.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Dodged bed bugs at an airbnb in LA earlier this year. When we made the report it didn't allow us to comment on the listing. So somebody else could possibly run into the same issue without resolution

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The last time I used Airbnb, we rented 2 rooms in a guy's house for a few days. At first, the guy seemed okay, only a minor reminder about leaving dishes out. I left a fairly positive review, but when it came time for his review of us he implied we were racist for not keeping eye contact and conversation with his roommate. I never saw the roommate, and my husband is the kind of introvert who doesn't initiate conversations, especially when alone. It was ridiculous. We were also told that we had access to the rooms, bathroom, and kitchen and not to go into any other part of the house.

I'll stick with hotels.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Also Airbnb tends to kill communities by making it way too expensive for people to actually live there and sleeping in a complete stranger's house does not sound too safe.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In Montreal an Airbnb cought fire and killed 6 guests and one tenant because the owner converted a house to multiple Airbnb ignoring all regulation (including fire marshal rules)

English article: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/montreal-old-port-fire-1.6788756

The province ended up banning Airbnbs but I don't know the details of the bag

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

And hotels are good for a city, instead of destructive.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I’ve never had this kind of bad experience with Airbnb

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I will take a hotel for it's convenience, service, and predictability any day.

Beds are comfy 99% of the time, there's an ice machine, and my god I'll take any opportunity for room service/being waited on.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Ice machines was something puzzling to me when I was in the US. I am curious why would you need an ice machine if you already have a fridge in the room?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The strangest part is when the owner suddenly decides to spend the night in the apartment as well, even though you rented the whole apartment alone.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Fuck airbnb

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I find when I AirBNB in the places I have been across Europe I have had no issues and I end up getting more for my money with no silly cleaning charges.

Is this something other locations have problems with or am I just missing the terrible places?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Afaik, AirBnB in the US is a huge pile of shit. In Europe most of the times the offering is good and you get more for your money that a typical Hotel. Exceptions exist of course, but on average I would say AirBnB > Hotel.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's going downhill in Europe too. I used Airbnb comparably early when it was available in Germany and it was a great way to cut costs while staying in unique locations and getting great tips from local owners.

Now it's mostly the commercial listings you would find on other sites too, riddled with strange fees and Hotel-like prices.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It depends on what you want. For my family, having space for the kids to hang out and play, inside and out, is a huge plus. Also we like to cook some of our meals while on vacation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

What are we comparing Airbnbs to? At least in large cities, the price of an Airbnb would be equivalent of a Motel 6 or Best Western. If you want the Hilton or Marriott, it would be at least 2x or 3x the price of an Airbnb.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Airbnb is much better for families whereas hotels cater to everyone else basically.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Air BNBs all the way! I just got back from one in NC mountains. We rented a lodge right next to a river with a cow pasture literally next to the house. Besides a washer and dryer...It had a hammock, fire pit, grill, farm fresh eggs, sweets from a local bakery, plus milk and orange juice and a stocked coffee bar. Then there was also a basket of decent snacks.

The Airbnb before had the same attention to detail but much smaller. They owned most land near the house so they built 2 little cabins near them to rent. This one came with a "free" bottle of whiskey. It also had a Blackstone and fire pit as well.

All hotels offer is the same shitty breakfast foods and coffee. Much rather be enjoying my vacation even if we wanted to spend half the day home at an Airbnb. Can't beat the perks. Just need to do your homework, not all Airbnb's are shitty rented side rooms. For the last 5 years my extended family and I had rented several houses big enough for the 9 of us. All with plenty to do around the house when you need a break from driving, hiking, restaurants and shopping.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

My kids are coeliac so we have a greater need to cook meals for ourselves. So we prefer staying in rented apartments / villas etc when on holiday. There are some aparthotels where a kitchen and actual bedrooms are available and we'll use those if they are affordable. Private accommodation also tends to be larger though and if airbnb seems sketchy there are also property rental companies - when we're in Florida we tend to rent a villa from one of these and it's been all fine. We're going to Turkey this year and have rented a top floor apartment overlooking a marina.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yall have some rough luck with ABNB properties. I stay 4-6 times per year and it’s been a breeze.

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