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[-] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

I like how we've gone from looking at the huge garbage patches in our oceans to the amount of microplastic in a drop of water. I don't see it as a material issue, you pick a material and with enough quantity it will pollute. It is a consumer society issue. But maybe it will be easier to change consumer society by dangling the microplastic threat effect so the actual cause can be treated - wait, the psychopaths in CEO positions would lose money then, never mind.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

I fucking hate lemmy now, you are just reddit with a sense of undeserved elitism.

This is a serious as fuck problem and all that anyone replies with are jokes and shitposts.

This is fucking /c/science, not /c/sciencememes

But none of you care especially the mods, so I'm just blocking every one of you.

edit: There's an entire subthread here that is nothing but masturbation jokes, which of course the mods ignore.

Fuck lemmy and its shitstain mod team same as the reddit mods but with worse hygiene. At least on reddit they keep /r/science clean

[-] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago

scrolling in the comment section of this news article, i've only seen people either being concerner/shocked, and some sarcastically talking about recycling or something. Nothing about masturbation.

And if your criticism of lemmy is that it's being reddit with elitism, then why try to gatekeep the way people are going to react to an article on c/science? Are we all supposed to have degrees in chemistry or biology before making a comment?

Believe it or not people take heavy news a million different ways and react differently. People ending up making a masturbation joke after discussing microplastics in testicles (i assume this is what happened) harm nothing and no one.

[-] [email protected] -1 points 5 hours ago

I've already blocked them so I can't link though I reported it too so maybe some mod woke their lazy ass up and deleted it as they should have.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

That lazy ass is a volunteer spending their free time filtering our crap.

That mods (need to) exist is also a symptom of bigger issues, ideally we don't need mods and are capable to self organized in a respectful way.

This is not reddit, you have the abilities to make a better science place on the fediverse, be the example of how you think it should be done. (Get off you lazy ass or understand that life for most is more then social media.

Its not perfect but its that freedom to disagree and build your own that sets us apart.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

People having a laugh isn’t the problem.

There is a real problem with the thread format of social media however.

My proof is I can’t find the “in this discussion relevant” thread of masturbation jokes because time has moved on and so did the discussion. [Edit: your comment is only 1h old, so not sure whats up]

We need a much better way to organize our speech and discussions because a single scroll page sorted by time, or contextless votes ain’t doing it.

I actually noticed that some of my comments are reacted very different towards depending on the time of day, what side of planet earth is awake at the time.

There is an argument to be had that certain troll farms love to drown discussions in shitposts and maybe we should be more mindful of the patterns.

But to say we should crack down on any form of jokes, which are an important part of our human expression that goes too far, thats what i disliked about r/science

[-] [email protected] -2 points 6 hours ago

I'm so glad blocks are free.

[-] [email protected] -1 points 4 hours ago

Doors over there. Feel free to leave.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Obligatory: The Planet is Fine - George Carlin

Peertube - https://kolektiva.media/w/37198b73-f7f9-4036-aa30-bb2da4763eda
googletube - Kmo8sh77G6Y

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

I find little shards of plastic in the vegetables from the supplier at work quite often. Sometimes I plate a dish and spot a bit of blue where it shouldn't be.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

Can't we just inject ourselves with plastic eating bacteria or something?

[-] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

We just need to turn up the UV lights voltage and melt the plastic out. Is that something we could look into?

[-] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago

We are the plastic eating bacteria.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

If we knew of bacteria that cleanly ate plastic, we probably wouldn't be riddled with micro plastics 😉

[-] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago

We know of them and are working on making them more efficient

Source

[-] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago

Those are Ideonella, and the byproducts are still toxic tu humans. Wouldn't work.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

So what does it do? Cancer?

[-] [email protected] 8 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

It’s making men infertile. theres even a shortage of viable sperm today around the world

[-] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago

Ok, that's one positive at least.

[-] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago

In regards to humans, progress is being made. In coming years, expect greater clarity about effects on our bodies such as:

  • inflammation
  • oxidative stress (an imbalance of free radicals and antioxidants that damages cells)
  • immune responses
  • genotoxicity – damage to the genetic information in a cell that causes mutations, which can lead to cancer.

TL;DR yes, cancer. It also fucks with wildlife (blocking intestines, giving off poison)

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Good chance it probably is, possibly increase chance for asthma, chance for heart attack, another is it probably makes us infertile probably a good thing depending how you think of it.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Is this stuff you know or are you guessing?

[-] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)
[-] [email protected] 3 points 23 hours ago

for anyone working with acrylic paint, this stuff is plastic so it’s best not to just chuck it down your sink.

There is a way to filter the plastics https://www.jacksonsart.com/blog/2023/09/28/acrylic-painting-rinse-water-microplastics/

Trying out the golden crash system (though you can just buy buckets and elements yourself to do it cheaper) and it got some very good results.

[-] [email protected] 49 points 1 day ago

A race to see what will kill the most of us first. The plastic or anthropogenic climate change.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago

Don't forget Antimicrobial resistance (AMR)!

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Plastic will probably only make us infertile while climate change will kill us AND already stop us from reproducing (or do you feel a kid born today has a good perspective on it's future?).

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[-] [email protected] 72 points 1 day ago

Studies have identified some of the main sources of microplastics as:

  • plastic-coated fertilisers
  • plastic film used as mulch in agriculture

WTF?

  • plastics recycling.

Uuuuh…

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Other great source of plastics are synthetic fabrics. It releases a lot of micro particles in the water during washing and drying cycles.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Plastic was never meant to be recycled.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

So, what you're telling us is, they've been lying for decades?

[-] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago

Yup passing on the responsibility from the manufacturer to the consumer

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[-] [email protected] 30 points 1 day ago

Plastic-coated fertilisers?

Rally?

WTF do we need plastic-coated fertilisers for?

[-] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago

to grow plastic infused plants, of course

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[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Controlled Release Fertilizers (CRF) are coated with a tiny layer of polymer which allow to release nutrients in a very timely and targeted way to various crops (trees, flowers, some cash crops) and used in closed environments such as potting plants or greenhouses.

So it has its use. Guess we'll need to find an alternative to using polymers now (among a ton of other work).

[-] [email protected] 95 points 2 days ago

Or several trillion very small problems.

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[-] [email protected] 68 points 2 days ago

Maybe global warming will melt all the microplastics into one big macroplastic and that problem will be 100% solved.

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[-] [email protected] 49 points 2 days ago

The UN's Global Plastics Treaty is certainly a step in the right direction. I'm not sure what can actually be done about the problem, especially with how pervasive synthetic materials are throughout the world. And what is medicine supposed to do? Plastics revolutionized sanitation, particularly in the medical field. Very complicated issue to resolve.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

Plastics are also used extensively in the electricity sector as insulation for conductors, support structures, etc.

We need our vendors of these products to start addressing this issue, and unfortunately I don't think this is going to come from the consumer end. Maybe for alternative insulating liquids for transformers and whatnot like with Cargill FR3 or Shell MIDEL products, but clearly more needs to be done. Schneider Electric is a good example of a company leading the way

[-] [email protected] 39 points 1 day ago

There are certain industries, like medical, that would probably be one of the last, if ever, to do away with plastic, simply due to the upsides. The only option we have as a species is to create a truly biodegradable, non-toxic, easily obtainable and cheap to produce alternative.

Haha who am I kidding, we are fucked, plastic manufacturers go brrrrrrrrr.

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[-] [email protected] 63 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Biggest sources:

  • 7.6 Mt from macro plastics breaking down
  • 1.3 Mt from paint
  • 1.0 Mt from tyres

10-40 Mt released into environment/year, and increasing.

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