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An old comic still relevant (discuss.tchncs.de)
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Work by Ron Cobb

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[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 hours ago

I feel like a more accurate (though much less catchy) name for this community would be !fuckcarcentricsociety. Cars are awesome! They're fun to drive, feats of engineering, and in the right conditions like a rollercoaster without tracks. They just fucking suck when they're practically required to live. I'm as big a proponent for public transit, you shouldn't need a car to get to your job or grocery store, but you can't look at something like F1 and say that's not exhilarating.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

but you can’t look at something like F1 and say that’s not exhilarating.

strong disagree. perhaps in the 60s and 70s - before we understood that ICE was spewing carbon dioxide and ruining the ecosystem sure.

Today? F1 is a fucking travesty - rich assholes burning crazy amounts of fuel to speed around in circles taking more from future generations every fucking lap.

If it were all electric powered by renewable resources harvested nearby I'd have less of an issue, but anything combusting is a giant middle finger to your own children. "Sorry skippy, even we knew, we still didn't give a fuck to stop the silly games."

[-] [email protected] 1 points 25 minutes ago

I agree the environmental impacts are certainly an issue, but the emissions from the sport alone aren't that bad, the worst is from all the travel done on private jets between locations. They've also done some work towards being more eco-friendly. The cars run hybrid V6s instead of V10s and by 2026 will use fully renewable biofuel. There's also Formula E, which is an entirely electric motorsport.

There's just some things an ICU can do that an electric motor can't. It's simply impossible to get the same amount of power as an F1 car from purely electric propulsion at the same weight.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago

1969 and it is still relevant.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 3 hours ago

I love the groceries in the front seat because there's no room anywhere else.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

Even though some sort of trunk or storage could totally fit without increasing the vehicle volume.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 3 hours ago

That's what I tell people. The reality of driving sucks. You might be in love with your fantasy of a 500 HP beast, but

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

meanwhile on an open mountain road on a Sunday afternoon

"Woooooo!!!!!"

Where you're driving is as important as what. You'd love to drive a Civic Type R.

In a hospital? Maybe not.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

Nah, FL5 Type 5 has hill assist, rev match, anti stall, and brake lock. With really comfy bucket seats. At speed you got Honda's bitchin adaptive cruise control and lane keeping assist. It's as comfortable as a manual car can be for commuting and traffic. 10/10 would recommend as daily driver.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

The fact that it needs to be open means 99% of people can't be there, which includes 98% of 500 HP car owners.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago

How I felt last week in my busted up 350k miles shitbox when there was a Lamborghini and Ferrari beside me crawling through traffic. Even once we were out of gridlock their average speed was probably the exact same as mine. My car costs probably 500 dollars and there's cost literally a 1000 times more than that. Made me feel good. Also made me feel like ramming them just because

[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 hours ago

As it turns out, road speed is limited by laws, safety and traffic, not the HP of your car engine.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 2 hours ago

Which perhaps makes the purchase more justifiable in Germany when you live within reach of the Autobahn…

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

I’ve always wanted to do this in video form - have a montage of heroic car ads that just crossfade together with tons of shots of those gas guzzlers sitting at red lights and in traffic.

[-] [email protected] 32 points 7 hours ago

As someone who has a big guilty pleasure for sports/performance cars and racing in general, this comic actually explains really well how I'm able to reconcile that with my dislike of car-centric infrastructure and wishing for better public transportation: without other means for getting around cities for people who don't care much about cars (i.e. most people), everyone will be forced to use cars for basic transport, meaning really clogged highways and traffic jams that directly affect you and your fancy sports car's enjoyment.

Conversely, if infrastructure was more accommodating for bikes, trains and buses to make them more viable, most people would use them, leaving the streets and highways freer for you to have fun driving your sports car the way it was meant to, instead of being stuck in traffic jams most of the time.

I just wish most people who are into cars realized this, instead of raving about how "they want to take away our cars!" and fellating Andrew Tate and other shitheads.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 6 hours ago

Why aren't sport cars rented instead of sold? Only place you can really use them is the race track.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 6 hours ago

Lots of racetracks sell packages like this, pay $$ to take out a certain car or groups of cars. But for lots of people it's just as much about the tuning/improving of their own car as it is about the driving.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

Ok, good point.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 6 hours ago

Au contraire, my Fuck Cars fellow. A sports car's agile handling and peppy acceleration are enjoyable even at street legal speeds. They are of course most enjoyable when driven nearer to the limits at a track, but most stock "sports cars" require some modifications to be reliably driven under such intense conditions.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 57 minutes ago

think, for a moment, about the world you're leaving to the future.

is it really worth peppy acceleration when you KNOW that is wasteful and literally costing your children? Because that's who's gonna pay that bill. Not you or me. Our kids and grandkids.

cars for fun made sense before we understood the actual costs.

these days it just seems gross, you got yours, fuck everyone else.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago
[-] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Buy and rent?

No, seriously. Guzzle more gas, prone to dangerous driving. Thus my idea to only rent them at race tracks.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

You have both options.

One of the big draws to things like muscle/sports cars is customization, and upgrading. You can't do that with a rental, so one of the biggest portions of that market will be left out.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 7 hours ago

The groceries in the passenger seat are a nice touch, because of course there's gonna be no trunk space.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

Instead of a macho man forging their destiny, it is a woman, given that it is the 70s, likely a housewife, coming home from grocery shopping.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

How do you know she's not a macho man forging his destiny as a housewife?

[-] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

Because it is the 70s, and I am going with the common themes of the time

[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

And doing groceries or work-related is why most people drive.

[-] [email protected] 68 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

While I can afford it, I intentionally have the smallest, most efficient vehicle I can possibly get away with owning while still meeting my mandatory social requirement of having a vehicle.

Due to a lack of public transportation, it is required. There’s no other practical means I can use to do the 45 minute commute to work, short of perhaps buying a motorcycle which puts me at risk due to the predominance of huge SUVs. I’ve considered an E bike, but we don’t even have sidewalks on this route.

I just can’t swallow investing in something that either sits outside or sits in traffic. I don’t use half of what that little four banger is capable of.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 8 hours ago

I always wondered that. Like why have 400 hpwr if there is no opportunity to use it.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago

Fast cars are fun to drive (if you are blissfully ignorant of how dangerous speeding is), but knowing what I know now, it is scary how easy it is to drive a fast car recklessly. I don't have a source at hand, but I'd bet money that high HP cars kill children and pedestrians at higher rates than small eco cars do.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

They are fun to drive! However, you really need to have room for it IMHO like some open or back roads to drive on. If you don’t live near many of those then that’s definitely something to consider. Getting to the bumper of the car in front of me faster is less interesting.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 6 hours ago

And trucks are just fast cars with worse handling and braking, and worse outcomes for bystanders in accidents.

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[-] [email protected] 21 points 12 hours ago

As someone whose only car is a Honda S2000... yeah kinda.

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[-] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

This is why people have a commuting car and a track car. Your track car is often not your commuting car

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