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The really special part is that Jassy is saying that he wants it to go back to like it was "pre-pandemic". Well, as a techie in Seattle, I can assure you that his new policy is much stricter than it was pre-pandemic. Being able to work from home was pretty lax back in the day, and they weren't tracking your badge-ins.
Very disingenuous. It's all about the shareholders, real estate investment, and pressure from city and business interests to get wallets back downtown at lunch time.
Sounds like a great way to lose a ton of your best employees.
Very disingenuous. It’s all about the shareholders, real estate investment, and pressure from city and business interests to get wallets back downtown at lunch time.
Everybody should pack their lunch in protest.
I've started pre-announcement. Lunch prices are insane now.
He wants to go back to how he assumed it was before the pandemic.
Was headhunted for a position at Amazon. But the recruiter said "You might be doing more than your usual 9 to 5. (Min 40 hours)"
And I told her that I sometimes do like 30 hours a week and my team plays video games for the remaining 5-10 hours together.
And she actually got mad at me for saying that.
How dare you. She's skipping lunch and peeing in a bottle struggling to make recruiting quota but you're out here enjoying life? Shameless.
We colonised thier lives fair and square!
Had a similar experience with a random company that said that “we might work on the weekends sometimes” and I rejected that immediately.
Surely they're just gonna be left with visa slavery?
There's already an ick associated with working for Amazon, when they start cutting the upsides* why would anyone stick around? I'd personally take a pay cut to go elsewhere if my current job forced me to go in 5 days a week
*Though IMO hybrid working is no longer remotely considered a perk and is the expected norm in this industry now. Even before the pandemic, my previous employer already let us work from home once a week if you wanted to.
Part of the problem is every tech company is churning. So it's hard to find places to hop to with similar pay.
Hell even friends I know are having tougher times just getting any job. Let alone FAANG level.
I know many tech industry people that have been 5-10 months. It's a bad time to be looking for a tech job
It is a strange situation where lots of people are retiring, but the jobs aren't there.
In Canada, the youth (15-24) has a hard time finding jobs, but nobody wants to work I guess.
Just the way they want it. It's a racket.
Zero shock. The moment they announced 3 days, I knew they were just doing it in chunks and 5 would come sooner or later.
What's the announcement?
Amazon CEO is calling for 5 days a week in office, starting January 2nd.
I’m guessing that they are moving to 5 days in office. My wife works for an Amazon subsidiary and that’s what they have to do now. They were on 3 days before
I hear next he's going to make them all watch prime video, oh the humanity!
Now with ads!
Must be a gold rush for companies that use the AWS infrastructure. My company is already trying to poach a few AWS engineers, with a WFH or hybrid contract.
More like a turd rush. We hired a bunch of people from AWS and we have an extremely toxic work culture now and have restructured twice in a year.
We lost a good developer to AWS, so now we're poaching him back. He knows our office, so I'm hoping for at least a list of his coworkers who he'd recommend.
I hate to break it to you, but plenty of Amazon employees work weekends too, especially when big launch dates are coming up.
Source: Work in an org at Amazon where people have paged us regarding feature work on the weekend.
That's the joke. We know Amazon is known for soul crushing long hours and weekends.
Eh, that part is known, but lately there are teams that have "officially" opened weekends as fair game. My org recently sent out an email stating that weekends would count as in-office days to entice people to work at the office to bump their RTO figures up.
Let the page go unanswered?
It escalates to your manager, then skip, and upwards.
They pre-empted this when we complained, and went straight to the director to say that the VP wants their org to complete something for a demo on Monday (they were told Friday). Since we were downstream, their feature would break our service contact, and would mean the E2E test wouldn't work, so our director asked kindly for us to help where we can and to prioritise the main work on Monday. By that time your weekend is already ruined, but under that manager in particular they've been working every weekend for about a year...
Yikes. Is the pay good at least?
It is, but given that I'm about to pay £20k a year to travel to the office, less so.
I once asked/complained about something and sent it to possible bezos email addresses, just guessing.
On a Sunday morning, I got a reply from someone from his office.
I thanked them for replying on the weekend.
Canceled my account last decade...
We're not going back.
