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[-] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

As a white woman who's gotten tickets - I only open my window 2-3 inches to hand my documents through. It's all I am obligated to do so we can communicate and I can provide documentation. Considering the amount of rape and murder the police conduct, I think this is reasonable. Idk why this man has to have his window down too. I've rolled mine up during traffic stops when it was very cold or very hot, as Florida probably is right now. It's a huge abuse of power and completely unnecessary to attack a citizen for rolling up a window. No one should defend this. It's fascism. There's no crime for rolling up windows.

[-] [email protected] 74 points 1 week ago

Police def overdid it, but part of the problem might be that some people would prefer to pay the fine for speeding because it’s insignificant to them. This specific component of the legal system is broken because it treats the wealthy exactly the same as everyone else.

[-] [email protected] 65 points 1 week ago

Fines need to scale based on the wealth of the perpetrator. It should be an equal punishment for breaking the law.

[-] [email protected] 41 points 1 week ago

Also, you can just mail speeding fines to people, there's no reason to pull anyone over for that shit except to initiate a conflict.

[-] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago

They use the pull over as opportunity to search for more offenses

[-] [email protected] 33 points 1 week ago

Yes, as I said, to initiate conflict.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

They could have said “no problem sir, we’ll get this ticket to you right away” and then slow walked the whole process. Taking up hill’s time would have caused him more problems than anything else.

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[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

Over here speeding gets a fine and points on your license which when you hit the magic number you get your license revoked....

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Those points can almost always be negotiated down.

[-] [email protected] 56 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I have spent a couple years badmouthing this dude, but the police bodycam footage is pretty crazy. It's also crazy to me that a bunch of Miami cops would pull over one of the city's most well-known athletes and nobody was like "gee, maybe we shouldn't go so hard on this one, he's famous"

[-] [email protected] 59 points 1 week ago

Thought process might well have been: "This is an uppity black man, we'd better show these types a lesson."

[-] [email protected] 34 points 1 week ago

Nothing makes a a cop more upset than seeing a black man doing better than him. A LOT of poorer white ppl seeing any brown person doing better than them is upsetting. You only got in your position because your a diversity hire or Affirmative Action!

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

No normal citizen would roll up their window on the police. Give me a fucking break.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

Its probably hot there. Why must he keep his window down except to assert arbitrary control?

[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

Playing devil's advocate. He may just not have wanted some paparazzi taking a picture of him while being pulled over? You could see in the video where the cop decides he's going on a power trip instead of just doing his job

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[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

so you are saying they should treat him differently because he is famous?

[-] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago

Cops should be aware that if they fuck around with a famous person, they will definitely find out how it feels to face serious charges.

I wish it was the same for us poor people, but it's not.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Exactly. I’m not saying the cops should do it, but you’d think they’d take a moment to pause before harassing literally one of the most famous men in their city. If that doesn’t make them reconsider their actions, just imagine what it’s like for everyone else. Tyreek Hill even made a comment about it in a post-game press conference, where he wondered what would’ve happened to someone else.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

No, the person is saying the cops should have been smarter. They didn't say, "the cops SHOULD HAVE done X." They said, "it's crazy that the cops DID do X."

[-] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Excessive use of force by the cop who clearly wanted to escalate. Tyreek Hill also wasn't being smart in the way that was handled. We already know how paranoid and trigger happy law enforcement can be. People like to act tough on the internet, but I wouldn't DARE roll up tinted windows during a police stop knowing how shit could escalate. I'm trying to have them see my hands at all times. That's exactly the kind of shit that can happen when you're just trying to get home safe. Whatever it is, it's not worth it.

[-] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago

Tyreek Hill also wasn't being smart in the way that was handled.

Why is it that we have to cater to the ppl in the wrong? Give him his ticket and go. Plus there was already another officer before captain tiny dick showed up who confirmed he had no weapons in the car and according Hill keep the entire situation calm. Fuck him. You want respect you have to give respect

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[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

Video shows that two motorcycle officers went after Hill after he appeared to speed past them at in his McLaren sports car on the roadway entering Hard Rock Stadium in light traffic — they later said they clocked him at 60 mph (97 kph). They turned on their lights and pulled Hill over. One knocked on the driver’s window and told him to put it down, which Hill did and handed him his driver’s license.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

I am a huge police accountability buff. But also, law matters, and court rulings matter. If police order you out of your car for their safety (in the US), you have to comply. If you do not, they are authorized to use force to pull you out and almost never do that gently. Cops absolutely use excessive force all the time, so not doing things that specifically give them permission would be smart. Him rolling up his tinted windows and refusing to get out of the car are what made this happen.

[-] [email protected] 47 points 1 week ago

They still need probably cause to force him out. They might have had it based on prior facts, but they might not have.

Cops are way past getting the benefit of the doubt from me

This looks like they were angry about an uppity black man.

[-] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago

This. They cannot tell you to get out for speeding or some other minor offense. They need probable cause for that. Then while he was in handcuffs, one of these clowns punched him in the face.

We need to end qualified immunity and start jailing these authoritarian tyrants.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

This is wrong. Stop spreading misinformation. They can order you out of a car for nearly any reason. Safety being a primary stated purpose that has MASSIVE LEAWAY.

https://www.smithandeulo.com/can-police-order-passenger-out-of-car/?amp

https://defenseadvocates.com/can-police-make-you-get-out-of-your-car/

I can post these all day long. They’re everywhere. There is no excuse for people spreading this misinformation.

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[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

Maybe, and I'm just spitballing here, but maybe for a simple speeding offense they didn't need to drag him out of the car? Just because they are allowed to based on past court cases doesn't mean they should use that for every issue they see.

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[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

The time between them ordering him out of the car (not asking to roll down the window) and them forcing him out was a few seconds.

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[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Everyone here gobblin up this rich domestic abusers BS just because the other party is a cop 🙄

Keeping your heavily tinted window rolled down during a traffic stop is not an unreasonable request. Dude's driving a $300k car and acting like an asshole to someone just doing their job. gimme a break. There are actual instances of racist police overreach that we aren't paying enough attention to. This isn't one of them.

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