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TL;DR; gerrymandering means that there are a lot of races where the best a Democrat could do is 35% or so of the vote. The same often goes for white rural areas where the boundaries weren't gerrymandered, but are simply non-competitive. Democrats don't even bother running a candidate a lot of the time under those conditions.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

The goal of the modern DNC is just enough majority to gain control, but not enough that voters would call for them to actually fix the things their donors like broken.

Because that involves losing House/Senate seats in "red states" they've just abandoned them.

Things like the "victory fund" exacerbate because what little is turned back over to states, is usually days before the election when it's hard to be utilized or even after the election.

Because the max state donations are being routed straight to the presidential candidate, it also dries up available contributions directly to a state.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The DNC has remarkably little power over any of this; organizing at the local level happens locally and that's really hard to do when it's so far from attaining anything like power at the municipal or county level.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Except the victory fund is taking all the money away from state parties...

Who are the ones who do what you're saying the DNC doesn't do...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

The Harris Victory Fund (what I assume you're talking about) is joint fundraising committee for the Harris campaign, the DNC, and the state parties. They're not being left out.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/02/clinton-brazile-hacks-2016-215774/

The only reason that came out, is moderates were so mad Hillary lost, they all left the DNC and a progressive got to see the books.

HVF became BVF became HVF, the only thing that significantly changes is the name the amount of money a single person can give, just under a million now btw.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

You're grumbling about how things were in 2017. Not how they are today. The increased limit is because the state parties joined in and get part of those larger contributions.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The only reason that came out, is moderates were so mad Hillary lost, they all left the DNC and a progressive got to see the books.

The DNC is a private organization, so are the state parties.

We only know about what happened then because none of them wanted to be stuck with the bag and a progressive was able to see the books.

That hasn't happened since....

So you're saying it's magically different by now, and we should just trust literally the same group of people that did it back then to not still be doing it today?

Doesn't seem like a very realistic prediction...

Seems like when Trump supporters keep thinking this time it'll work out or maybe Wiley Coyote?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The donation form for the Harris Victory Fund literally describes how the funds you contribute are divided between the Harris campaign, the DNC, and the state parties.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

And they said it back in 2016 too...

But guess what actually happened?

Hint:

The answer is in the link you didn't read.

Extra hint because you won't go read it:

They fucking lied.

You want to actually prove something?

Since you say two elections is too far back, go find how much money BVF took saying it would go to state parties, then how much money they actually got and at what point during the election.

You won't find it, because like I said, they're private organizations with no responsibility to disclose.

You're asking me to just assume they stopped doing shady shit as soon as people stopped being able to see their book, I think that's incredibly naive