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Former U.S. Ambassador to Israel David Friedman writes in new book that U.S. support for Israeli sovereignty is ‘based first and foremost on biblical prophecies and values’

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[–] [email protected] 131 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Tell me again how both sides are the same?

[–] [email protected] 74 points 2 months ago (2 children)

That's why I'm voting for Jizz Stein hur hur!

[–] [email protected] 61 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Same here, because when everybody is against us, and don''t give a fuck about Palestinian genocide, I can't vote for Harris who is only partially on our side.
My logic is flawless. I will now go ahead and shoot my other foot.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

"You'll respect my choices and wishes like i accept yours, right? RIGHT?!??!?!?!" - Enlightened Stein voter.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Of course I will, just don't expect me to be able to help you when they come for you, because you helped vote the leopards into power.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh, trust me, I know. I was just poking fun and quoting a particular user on here who goes around using this same logic while attacking other's views and then victimizing him/herself whenever he/she remotely gets any resistance.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I understand it was sarcasm. You wrote enlightened Stein voter, that can ONLY be a joke. So don't worry.
I've seen similar comments, that are absolutely insane from people supporting Gaza.
My response however, was meant for those who actually believe there's a better third option.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

My response to this is "I respect your right to vote. Why don't you?"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

I swear there's a weirdo Jill Stein supporter who always shows up on Lemmy threads and says nearly that exact comment. Like hell no I don't respect your wack choice.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

It's funny because we all know exactly who that is, too. Of course trying to use "respect" in both the sense of "respecting their right" and also "not (correctly) calling them a dumbass every time."

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah she made a PLEDGE to stop war in Palestine!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Well, both sides want to end the genocide. One by gently asking Israel to negotiate a ceasefire, the other by urging Israel to finish the job.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

When one of those sides completely defunded UNRWA they are the same, When one of those sides keeps providing weapons and money to slaughter Palestinians, they are the same. When Biden and Harris are providing those weapons and money to Israel they are allowing Netanyahu to 'finish the job'

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Lol you have to preemptively use Donald's quote because you know which party is worse and don't want your campaigning on Donald's behalf to get interrupted with facts or anything of the sort. The topic of the article is what you want to happen. Monstrous.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm using Trump's quote because liberals quote it while ignoring their team is finishing the job.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You're using Donald's quote to pretend Dems are as bad as the guy you're campaigning on behalf of.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Dems are as bad, I'm not campaigning for Trump. If I'm saying Dems are as bad as Republicans, Republicans must be pretty damn bad. That's isn't the typical endorsement of support from someone.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

If you're saying Dems are as bad as Repubs you are either delusional or deliberately disregarding reality. Of course it is the latter, since you are on here campaigning for Donald every day.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"Both sides"-ers in shambles

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Doubt it. They seem pretty comfortable swimming in wilful ignorance.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I agree with you but pedantically that seems to imply they are still ignorant of the reality. I don't believe that for a second.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Im saving this post in case some smoothbrain goes "bOtH sIdEs" again, or just to annoy the grifters a little...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

I have been telling everyone about trumps wonderful pogroms for the palestinian people and finally the news recognizes it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I wonder - and I mean this seriouslyand not in an /s way - what happens, if you object "bOth SiDeS" with "Why not vote for Harris then?"?
Surely you won't convince a Trumpologist this way.
But doesn't that also give leeway to present voting for Harris as equally good choice in the eyes of Trumpologists?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Because they either value virtue signaling over actual change, or are just spreading propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Option A:

"I couldn't possibly do even a single action that would make me even slightly complicit in the genocide from either side," while spending all day campaigning for everyone to vote the same way as MAGAs want them to, "in fact, the Dems are so far right that they are literally indistinguishable from theocratic authoritarians promising to deliver a dictatorship."

Option B:

"Well, he cannot do worse than this," regarding a guy who blasted Yemen and wants to "finish the job" in Gaza, "and this will force the Dems to move left to get voters next election, after voting is abolished, they certainly won't move rightward looking for people who will actually vote."

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

He wants to make Palestine a territory of Israel’s, like Puerto Rico is to the US. The rub is, the powers in Israel just want to wipe out the Palestinians, so I doubt they will like this plan.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago

Fuckin' psycho.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Good ole religion. Let's end the world so our beloved Jeebus comes out of his fucking fox hole. Why can't he just come out of it without so much pain ~~amd~~ and suffering to innocent people? What a fucking asshole if he were real?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The loving Jesus depicted in the New Testament would be shot, hung, or even re-crucified by his followers if he dared show up and open his mouth. He ain't coming back.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

The Baha'is believe he already came and went. World ended in 1844, a new one replaced it.

Just like the world ended around 4500 BCE when The Green Sahara period and the Bronze Age Collapse happened within 200 years of each other, and some scared ass Jews wrote the Torah, inventing their entire history out of the ruins of Egypt, despite never having been there.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

This is an Onion article, right?

. . .

Right