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[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Ex-Xbox Exec

X Xbox Xec Series X|S

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Or muskrat having an aneurysm

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

And his Xclusive Xposé.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Yeah their stupid naming convention is exactly what was going through my mind reading that.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (13 children)

People have been telling me that consoles are dying and everyone will play on PC instead for over 30 years. The convenience factor of the all-in-one hardware, and the supported lifetime of the platform, can't be understated. I can see docked phones being a replacement at some point. But I'd be surprised if PCs ever squash out consoles.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Yeah, but now you can buy an all-in-one convenient PC to plug on your TV with almost 100% retro compatibility, it's called the Steam Deck and it's awesome.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (16 children)

Aside from convenience, the price really is a lot cheaper than equivalent PCs. An RTX 4070 alone costs as much as a playstation 5 (with disc), and that comes with a controller too.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

But you don't really need a 4070 for gaming. Just like you don't need a F150 to drive to work (most people don't at least). Plenty of lower end hardware does the job well. Over the course of the systems lifetime a PC can be very competitive in terms of prices for games. And it can be used for more than just gaming.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's the wrong generation and has a little too much power, the closest would probably be a 3060 which was available shortly after the launch of the PS5. But it was still more than half the price of a PS5 and you need more than a GPU for a computer.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

But you also don't have to pay for online monthly you get better deals on games and or free if you're one to sail the seas imo they save you money in the long run and you can do so much more then just play games on it compared to a console

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Im with you except for the "supported lifetime," I have a PC that can play the original Doom alongside Cyberpunk 2077 with raytracing, and literally everything in between.

My PS3 can play at most a decade worth of games. It is obsolete.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

My PS3 can play at most a decade worth of games. It is obsolete.

Sure, but so is the PC that someone bought around the time the original Doom was released.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Not necessarily. You can incremently upgrade your pc over time. Typically for cheaper than a brand new console. Generally as long as you have a nice enough mobo, you could just replace the GPU and suddenly "be able to play next gen games"

I still believe mobile PC's (like the ROG or Deck) will be the new consoles of the future. Why the hell would I trap myself to a room every time I want to play a game? Now I can walk to any random forest, lake, area, and go play Cyberpunk 2077 for 4 hours with nothing but nature.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (4 children)

The improvements of steam and proton, steamlink and big picture mode make it possible to run great games on your TV. Its not „just turn on“ yet but we‘re getting there. I wanted a PS5 when they were unavailable but I since managed to play my favorite games on my tv with a ps4 controller and dont see the point to buy back into a locked up computer with a fancy case for games that have microstransactions gallore.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Its not „just turn on“ yet but we‘re getting there

I think we are 99% there. If you make a decent AMD based machine, install Bazzite on it, you can set it to "Open in Big Picture mode on startup". After the initial configuration in desktop mode (you need to do this only once during installation), you can just start the PC and sit in your couch. No need to download drivers or any desktop shenanigans. You control it using any standard game controller. No need for a mouse/kb; just start and play.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Thats pretty awesome! :) thanks for sharing. Do you know by any chance if kodi has a steam app somewhere? I‘m going with a raspberry pi and it works well as a client for media but not yet for steam.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

You don't need it specifically from steam you can add any app into steam hell even my pirated games are in steam

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Failing manufacturers in this case mean manufacturers who've sold twice your product count?

Clearly Xbox have a weird definition of the word "fail".

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

As long as there are killer 1st party titles exclusive to a console platform, there’s a reason to buy one.

Personally, I love Zelda, Mario, and most recently I’ve been excited about the new Astro Bot game about to come out.

Outside of Steam Deck emulation, you need a console to play those, and I do enjoy the convenience.

The last Xbox worth buying was the 360, because all Xbox titles are released on other platforms now - eliminating the need for an Xbox console.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

As long as there are killer 1st party titles exclusive to a console platform, there’s a reason to buy one.

Counterargument: some of us consider this kind of arbitrary BS a reason NOT to buy one.

And that's before you even consider the additional crap consoles pull, like Nintendo making the only way to back up your saves a fucking subscription service.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Especially now that there are maybe 2 or 3 "killer apps" per the life cycle of a console at this point. Why would I pay $600 to buy a console, just for 3 exclusives?

If there was an entire panel of awesome exclusives like back in the PS3/360 era, it would make more sense. But as it stands, the amount of good games on PC just dwarfs what's on any console.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Can things that are true be a "pushed narrative"?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Is this when they realise that infinite growth isn't actually infinite? There's always a place for a device for entertainment. Be that pen and paper or electronic.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The new-gen console is actually trending 7 per cent ahead of the PS4 in the United States launch aligned.

And how much do you think the drop in Xbox is? It's way more than 7 percent. The problem for Sony isn't that its console is dying; it's that they're approaching market saturation. They've got their market cornered in a way that they never have, and they've only got a 7 percent lead off of the last generation. Peak dollars spent on consoles was back in 2009, when all three consoles were in very healthy competition. Many PS4 users are happy to stay on PS4, because the games they play are over 10 years old, like Grand Theft Auto V and Minecraft, so there's no need to upgrade.

Meanwhile, a console that launched with some idea of every game running at 60 FPS is now compromising on that (it was inevitable, but people believed otherwise). Games that used to be console exclusive are now coming out on PC, where you don't need to pay a subscription fee to play online and your library always comes with the assumption that every game you have will be forward compatible. Even if you buy the new PlayStation, there's no promise that your old games will run at better resolutions and frame rates. The controller you bought 10 years ago still works on PC, but Sony says you need to buy the new one, even if the game you're playing uses none of its new features. The VR system you bought before doesn't play the new VR games. For all sorts of economic realities, not the least of which are certification processes and licensing fees, there's a good chance that game you really want to play is on PC long before it's on console, in early access or otherwise. There are no competing storefronts for digital releases, so you can only pay what Sony says you have to pay. Consoles also aren't even significantly cheaper than an equivalent PC anymore, and they run basically the same hardware under the hood, so the reasons for a console as we know them today to exist are fewer and fewer as time goes on.

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