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[-] [email protected] 37 points 1 week ago

Yeah, this isn’t uncharted at all.

[-] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago

Only thing that could make that poster look more Nazi is a big swastika at the top

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

You’re kidding me

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[-] [email protected] 36 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The result of neoliberalism, increasing wealth inequality, decades of lies and misinformation in mainstream media and refugee streams triggered by unnecessary wars and climate change.

It is INEVITABLE that Europe is going to become more and more fascist and it has nothing to do with Germany specifically. UK is arresting people for posting online about the genocide in Palestine. France is rather doing a coup than let actual socialists rule. This is the inevitable result. Nothing can change this now. Prepare for it. I'm going to build a boat.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

It's an east-west problem, Nazis are especially big in former eastern Germany. Since smart young people leave the area, the loud minority of authoritative complainers increases. They completely lack empathy and are unable and unwilling to change their lives. They only want to drag everyone down and project their self-hatred about that on others. Of course, they also hate on people who want to change sth. for a better future in this area. Those idiots are still the minority, but it must be harderband harder for the normal people to live with those idiots, especially on the countryside.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

It's exactly the same with the American south, anyone with an education escapes as fast as they can, leaving the uneducated poor who are recruited by the historical landed gentry through racism.

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[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

And in France we can see the liberals would rather do a coup than let actual socialists rule. The people in the east have more understanding of socialist theory and it's limitations, and they might actually understand better why the neoliberal austerity policy of Germany won't help them. So rather than inequality based on class and wealth they choose inequality based on identity like race. Because if you're getting fucked anyway, why wouldn't you.

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[-] [email protected] 32 points 1 week ago

Uncharted? Don't we have a whole war that charts what happens?

[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

Nonono, that was the National Socialist Party, duh!

/s

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[-] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago

Extremely charted. I think someone forgot that the History Channel exists.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

I don't think the American History Channel is the high quality historic source we should be citing here.

That thing seems to be all aliens and bigfoots these days. I wouldn't believe anything they try to teach me haha.

Feck knows what they're smoking at that production company.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

That was part of the joke... Even the history channel has extensively covered the rise of the Third Reich

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

You mean Hitler is aliens?

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Yeah once people knew the story they needed a plot twister

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[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

AfD: "You and me, baby ain't nothing but Nazis. So let's do it like they do on the history chanel..."

🎶🎶🎶

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Lose and get bombed to shit? I'm in.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Is this Blood And Honor Gang - The Bad Salute?

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[-] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago

It’s extremely charted: Berlin moves to the right and ends up in Poland. Basic history and geography.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I believe the German tanks are already traversing the steppes of Ukraine that they yearn for.

[-] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago

this is just colonial tradition: seeing territory that has clearly been occupied and still acting like you're the first to discover it.

[-] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago

Uncharted? Didn't we already fight two world wars because of a far right Germany?

[-] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Didn’t we already fight two world wars because of a far right Germany?

The first WW was more Germany committing the unconscionable crime of trying to keep up with British / French Colonialism. The second was a direct result of the WW1 winners tolerating/facilitating German fascists as a counterweight to the boiling over of Eastern European communist movements.

Right up until Adolf invaded the Rhineland, the UK and the US and France were all on board with German fascists and their crusade to crush the Soviet influence in their local politics. Hell, even the antisemitism was largely in-vogue. 1930s Western Europeans were broadly in agreement that Jewish people were a pest to be ghettoized and resource to be exploited. That's why so many Jewish refugees were denied entry to the western hemisphere in the run up to the Holocaust, in stark contradiction to the number of Nazis who were afforded Rat Lines into the Americas following the war.

I'd argue the Far Right in Germany was much more a symptom of 19th century colonialism and 20th century orthodox capitalism than the explicit cause of the wars. They were the tip of the spear aimed at naive people in Africa, East Asia, and Latin America. They only became a problem when their fascist ideologies returned to the imperial core.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

The war reparations that France demanded of Germany post WW1 contributed to creating an economic environment where the rise of a 'National Socialist' party seemed like a good idea to the average German. IIRC, America and Britain tried to get France to be more reasonable and France basically said "I'll keep whipping until they stop crying" The Dawes plan helped provide European stability at the end of the 20s, but the crushing debt was used by Hitler as a tool in his rise to power.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Reparations had a perverse impact on the respective economies, though. Turning Germany into a debtor nation caused the country to undergo a rapid industrialization, partly financed by those same reparations payments. Meanwhile, the WW1 winners got to glut themselves on German industrial produce while their own economies stagnated.

The Dawes plan helped provide European stability at the end of the 20s, but the crushing debt was used by Hitler as a tool in his rise to power.

Hyperinflation in Germany while every other nation was suffering deflation caused German export markets to surge. Hitler rode the downturn into office, but what really paid off for him was the sudden surge in demand for German goods (and subsequent German manufacturing). The modern industrial German state is a byproduct of that rapid industrialization.

But the industrial explosion also created a great deal of ecological destruction and a ravenous hunger for cheap raw materials and slave labor. Hitler operated as the ideological mouthpiece of the German industrial state, helping to form the rationale for a land grab in Eastern Europe and a press-ganging of the proles. But it was this industry surge, combined with the American financial capital that profited from distribution of German workhouses, that really boosted Hitler from one bigot PM among a dozen to the head of a metasticizing cancer of imperial conquest.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Thank you for the additional information and effort in sharing this. This is really well written - informative, easy to read, and enjoyable.

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[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

One. The other one was monarchists battling it out "for the last time".

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

To be fair, for most of the monarchs that was the last time!

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

Some took longer than others.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

She died 2 years ago and her replacement still isn't on my money

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[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

No, I don't want to see king sausage fingers on anything in my pocket. And why bother? He will not be around in 10ish years.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Could be worse.

Could be his brother's fingers in your pocket.

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[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Nononononononono, the two WWs are fundamentally different and should not be conflated, because that cheapens the horror of the NS regime/ third reich.

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[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

Looks like they found the chart

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[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

Can we just start killing nazis and fascists again?

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

I never stopped !

[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

WTF, Germany? Last time you were a war torn country with the economy in the shitter, what’s the excuse this time?

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

uh.... Volkswagen is uh... kinda struggling?and... look I don't know

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

It's just something to do, you know?

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[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

notice how none of them have head hair?

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Heads of skin you say?

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Only uncharted because the last batch of charts were likely burned during sacking of berlin

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

i mean... Every day is technically uncharted territory, given that time doesn't exactly stop moving forwards.

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