this post was submitted on 31 Aug 2024
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THE POLICE PROBLEM
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The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.
99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.
When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.
When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."
When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.
Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.
The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.
All this is a path to a police state.
In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.
Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.
That's the solution.
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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.
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• Cops aren't supposed to be smart
• Killings by law enforcement in Canada
• Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom
• Killings by law enforcement in the United States
• Know your rights: Filming the police
• Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)
• Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.
• Police lie under oath, a lot
• Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak
• Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street
• Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States
• When the police knock on your door
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It's always inappropriate relationship when facist adults in.positions of power are raping children.
so fucking infuriating
It's not an "inappropriate relationship", they raped her.
He's the oldest 35 years old I've ever seen
when she was 15 and he was 27
In the picture she's 13, so he must be 25?
That's another person. 2 cops were involved
Edit: oh apparently 3. Great
Yeah 3. His twin brother was also raping the girl
This photo makes it so much worse
Can't be too harsh on cops. We don't want them against the government...
It gets worse.
On April 1, 2022, Farwell resigned from the force after he had been on paid administrative leave for weeks, the Boston Globe reported.
Days later, his twin brother William Farwell, who also met Birchmore through the program, and another police officer Robert Devine, who was an instructor when Birchmore was enrolled, were both put on administrative leave.
In September 2022, the chief of the Stoughton Police Department revealed all three of the officers had been fired for having “inappropriate” relationships with Birchmore.
Fired?
There needs to be waaaaaaay stricter and harsher punishments for crooked cops.
At a minimum they should be held to the ones we already have. That would be a start.
Yep, like a couple of life sentences by these alone. Should frankly be enough.
Agreed
Fun Fact: Iron maidens were invented in the 19th century.
Also the whole aesthetic of the romantic medieval (think Central European propaganda posters in the first half of the XX century, or Dumas' interpretation of Robin Hood) and of the gothic (as in dark fantasy stylistic, that one especially popular in the 90s, black metal, TES: Daggerfall, and so on) medieval.
guys I'm starting to think that cops may not be the best people
I noticed long ago they are starkly lacking in qualities I require to label something ‘a person’.
They're only as good as their training, which is laughable if you look it up, while the profession do tend to attract these types...
Remember, police have advocated and fought for the right to hire not the qualified, educated applicants.
cause qualified and educated means they are more threat to the police and the institutional corruption within, than some high school bully type who would gladly partake.
It's always the ones you most suspect
The moral of the story is, don't let your children anywhere near cops. Holy fuck.
Where I live everybody knows this. Admittedly it's Russia, but from your news I'm starting to think that maybe ours are not that much worse than yours.
One of our two parties pretty much openly idolizes Putin, so dont worry We're catching up.
Before 2016 I frankly suspected the other one of that, but yes.
Funny, I remember in year 2012 as a teenager thinking that the West is so fscking impenetrable to directed political corruption from ex-USSR with the accompanying views on morality, then started realizing it just took ~20 years to take visible effect.
I'm finding this to be very tricky in practice. Cops are everywhere, copaganda is everywhere, and kids have trouble understanding situations in which everyone else is crazy and stupid.
I've been telling them to avoid the police, that police are liars and not their friends. But also, don't get into fights with your friends at school whose dads might be bastards. And if it ever gets to school administration, the school admins will look for every excuse to take my kids away, because I must be a criminal.
They're already exposed by not pledging allegiance to the flag, too.
And this is in a very liberal part of the country. If you guys know somewhere - anywhere - where people are sane, please let me know.
She is a girl anyone in America could know. She looks like my niece. This makes me so angry.
American cops are really the lowest from of life
ACAB
If anyone other than a pig or a politician had done this, it would be all over every news source.
And I bet he got less consequences than some DUI violators.
I'm conflicted if it's better to read this with the giant ad collapsed, but that would show another video ad that covers the text, or let the giant ad take 70% of the screen
After hiding behind an adblocker for years, it's easy to forget what a hellscape a lot of the internet is. Thanks for the reminder.
For surfing and opening links, I use Firefox + ublock origin + noscript on my pc & android devices. I still use chrome for logging into services because more and more sites depend on popups and scripts for no good reason. It works pretty well most of the time.
Mull with uBlock Origin and third-party frames+scripts blocked.
Edit: my bad, that was with my normalize userstyle. Original looks like this:
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If you disable javascript, you'll have no problems. The ads won't have any scripts to load from and you'll easily be able to read all the text.
What the actual hell!? The internet looks like this these days!?
(I use an adblocker so I don't see this crap)
With no ads, the site doesn't look too bad, to be honest.
I use an ad blocking DNS (nextdns.io)
Not okay.