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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Frankly, good.

There has yet to be any of these purported "child protection" scams that would do a damn thing for kids, and only invades the privacy of people that have zero reason to be investigated in the first place

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They could at least do on-device hash lookups and prevent sending. Has zero effect on privacy and does reduce CSAM.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Yah, that would be a great solution in comparison, but it's still privacy invasive. Not as bad, but it's still not giving people due process.

Which, not everywhere in the world recognizes that principle as a right, I am aware. But I do consider due process a right, and scanning anything on anyone's devices without a legally justifiable reason is a violation of that.

I'm not willing to kowtow to a moral panic and just ignore the erosion of privacy "because the children". And it is a moral panic. As bad as it is, as much as I personally would enjoy five minutes alone with someone that's making or using kiddie porn of any stripe, it simply isn't such a common thing that stripping everyone of their privacy, in any way is acceptable.

They wanna figure out a way to target individuals suspected of that kind of crime, awesome. Untargeted, sweeping invasions simply are not acceptable, and I do not care what the purported reason of the week is; kiddie porn, terrorism, security, stopping drugs, I do not care. I have committed no crime, and refuse to give away the presumption of innocence for myself or anyone else.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago

yeah cracking down on the child trafficking networks operating on telegram would totally not do a thing /s

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

When the West wants to censor the internet its always either child protection or national security.thats brought up as the reason.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The west

Are authoritarian regimes somehow supposed to be more opposed to using children to promote heightened surveillance?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

I mean... Yes?

They don't need to lie to sell their oppression. They just do it because they're authoritarian.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Authoritian regimes doesnt need to pretend. If they find out you are a risk they don't need to gather evidence to get you in prison, so they don't need to pretend they care about censoring the internet for the wrong reasons.

The issue here is the west want to do the same but need a valid justification. Instead of work to stop the actual abuse in the first place they want access to the only way for many people to share information safely.

You could be technically letrate and find your way around all the restrictions, but many people are not and they need access to secure communication channels to arrange there activism.

The fact we don't see backlash against twitter, Facebook, Google, and Apple tells alot about what is this about.

The fact we are seeing more support for "consent" for kids, and the fact that there were many major cases such as Epstein and Maxwell which has been obscured or even hidden when it comes to major profilic people says alot about their intent.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago

They do need to pretend, because they need assistance from supposedly civilized states in their actions covered by that pretense.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Did religions joined child protection schemes? Because they are one of the biggest child indoctrination and abuse schemes in the world.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Telegram: "Man, fuck them kids bruh!"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Those programs are about mass surveillance and are wrapping themselves in the sheep wool of "protecting kids"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Doesn't mean they shouldn't moderate.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Why should they? Should every mail(physical or not) you receive be opened and read? Should the government have access to everything you do on your phone or pc? Should the government moderate your house? You are full 1984.