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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (4 children)

The argument against sick days is fucking bonkers to me. You want people to come in and get the rest of the office sick?? One of the many many reasons I prefer working from home.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

It's not even that.

In an office setting sick days literally help productivity, because metrics and workload should account for employee's work hours.

If someone's on leave for a day, theyre taken out of production numbers.

If they "tough it out" then production numbers say they should produce a normal days workload.

You end up looking worse encouraging a work culture where people don't take days off.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's the problem with Gen Z: they don't want to SHARE

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

GEN Z IS KILLING WORKING YOURSELF TO DEATH

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

2020 taught people nothing.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It’s not so much the argument it’s workplace policies that say 6 or more days a year means you can be fired with cause. A late clock-in counts as half of one of those.

At least that’s been standard at most places I’ve worked.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Brutal. There is a world beyond the American dystopia, you know.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

And I've learned it doesn't want us unless we wanna be nomads or we really have something amazing to offer.

(Maybe I'm setting the bar too high looking into Scandanavia lol)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

That's rough. Not even my shittier jobs have had that policy

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I worked really hard at my first year at a big company and didn't take any sick days. During my performance review, I scored 4/5 for attendance, even though I arrived early for every shift and did every overtime opportunity. When I asked my manager, she said it's policy not to hand out 5's because it sends the message that there's no room for improvement.

No one could tell me how I could improve my attendance.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

what the fuck

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Absolutely rage inducing. Care to name and shame the big company?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Naw, it wasn't a bad experience overall, once I fell into the habit of mixing sick days with vacation days.

They had some exploitable policies, doctors notes for 3+ sick days in a row but no questions asked about 1-2 days, vacation days with 2 weeks notice one day at a time with no right of refusal if there's proper coverage.

This meant you could book Wednesday to Friday off two weeks in a row, and call in sick Monday/Tuesday two weeks in a row, giving you 10 days off for the cost of 4 sick/ 6 vacay. Other exploitable shenanigans were possible around Stat holidays.

The front line managers knew what the situation was, but HR never got wind unless something tripped the system,so if everyone works together on their sick days it was pretty good.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm 50. I've never had 10 days off in a row. I tried to plan two weeks last year and left but had to come back early.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Yea fuck that, take the PTO, don't let anyone tell you to come back early.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I really wish companies would realize workers are more productive when they can take time to take care of their mental and physical health.

Stressed out, overwhelmed, and exhausted people naturally make more mistakes, and mistakes cost money. You'd think they'd understand this because...well... profits?

But no, a bunch of sociopaths Machiavellianed their way to the top of companies and seem to enjoy making their workers miserable while claiming profits are the motivation for horrible sick leave policies.

The US is fucking awful about this shit. I really hope it changes soon.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago

Companies don't even realize that sick people shouldn't be serving food. I wouldn't hold my breath (unless you're eating at a restaurant, where there's a 50% chance an employee is working while sick).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't get paid sick time I can use my PTO. Would I rather be sick and miserable at work(in which my day already sucks)and be paid and using my rest and relaxation time for something I want or do I use one of my 10 PTO days and cancel my vacation I may have already booked since I only have 10 days off a year 2-3 days I have to use for federal holidays since I don't get paid off since I am contracted with the bank but my company doesn't pay me for the holiday.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I get this, but it's horrible incentives. The company will lose money from other employees getting sick, and you're sure as hell not as productive when sick even if you go to work. I don't understand why the US work culture has developed in such a way that's bad for everyone.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Because owners still got the slaver mentality.