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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

This image removes the bit of important context that they're talking about the safety of nuclear power. Elon is trying to argue that lingering radiation may not be as much of an issue as people may currently understand it to be. So, when talking about the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagaskai, he's trying to point out that even cities that were vaporized by an atomic blast can potentially be livable, and even thriving, within a human lifetime.

That being said, I would argue that there are far better ways to go about arguing in favour of the safety and efficacy of modern nuclear power plants without having to try to paint the horrific atrocity that was the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, which have been reported to have killed approximately 200k people (civilians and military alike) in an instant and caused many thousands of later deaths due to burns and radiation poisoning and cancer and any number of other injuries caused by the blasts, as "not as bad as you think".

I'd argue that the great many strides that have been made in engineering and science to develop safe means of operating and maintaining nuclear power plants and the safe means of disposing and managing waste is a much better platform to start from for arguing in favour of nuclear power than the horrific accidents that have happened over the years which have themselves allowed us to gain the research necessary to ensure the current level of safety.

These are mistakes to be recognized, honoured, and learned from — not mistakes to be downplayed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The lingering radiation is quite different between a nuclear bomb and nuclear power plant meltdown, one with an estimate of 1 to 5 years, and another with an estimate of 30 years. So it's kinda apple and orange, both are fruits, but it's like different species.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Musk is doing a speedrun to reach Trump levels of lunacy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

What a goddamn Jerk-Off

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Calls himself an anime fan and he's never watched Grave of the Fireflies.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I didn't want to take this at face value without context so I found when they discussed this. Check around 1:17:00 in this video.

https://youtu.be/lfBQoWxQaEM?si=6Ev6rx62KESH-HgR

And yeah, he did say exactly what the OP states. So... yeah.

To give the absolute benefit of the doubt, I could say they were referring specifically to nuclear fallout rather than the initial explosion, as a full on explosion is less likely in a nuclear plant emergency. But even assuming it was just an incredibly distasteful way to reference that, there are still thousands of deaths and even more injuries/illnesses associated principally with radiation poisoning.

This is not to say I'm against nuclear energy, but by god we've got to have more careful consideration than this.

Edit: As a bonus, Musk talks about his views on global warming around the 1:10 mark. The issue with greenhouse gasses is, uh... making it hard to breathe?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

For more context: hes comparing nuclear energy disasters like chernobyl to the bombings of japan, saying that because those cities recovered therefore people are wrong about chernobyl still being uninhabitable and that people shouldn't be so scared of nuclear energy. Hes not saying bombing cities isnt so bad in general, just that its not as bad as how "(((they)))" say it is at chernobyl. Nevemind the fact that even if chernobyl was able to rebound it still would've been a major and tragic disaster!

This actually perfectly demonstrates his lack of knowledge and ability to perceive himself unduly as an intelligent person because of his financial success. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were able to rebuild and the nuclear fallout was short-lived because the bombs were detonated miles above the ground to maximize their immediate devastation, while the chernobyl reactor exploded on/in the ground and there is still uncontained radioactive material within the compound because it is basically impossible to clean up.

Also, the comments on that video are depressing.

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