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[-] [email protected] 63 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

9 fucking felonies. "Unsupervised probation". What tf.

The average person gets caught with a bowl of weed (a single misdemeanor) in a red state and all the sudden probation officers are stopping by their house unannounced, they're peeing in cups twice a month, and, under threat of imprisonment and slavery, they are forced to give up constitutional rights. Plus all the associated fees that don't get applied to "Unsupervised Probation".

This is some bullshit.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

My dude(ette), there are always bigger fish and the biggest, slimiest one keeps slipping out of the jumpsuit to match the color of his aging meat suit. This guy likely has a lot of the stuff the prosecution wants.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Naw.

Hold everyone accountable.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Let's say you were doing shady, illegal shit for some mob boss-wannabe. You know a lot of shit. Have emails, phone messages, recorded meetings, and one day you're picked up on charges for something you did for the boss.

You have two choices, go to jail for 10-15 years or take a plea deal where you give up all evidence on the boss and in return are given only probation. You'd really give up a portion of your life in federal prison for that guy?

That's the situation that this kind of shit is used for. He didn't get this light sentence for nothing. Most of these people are spineless tools that were used and thrown under the bus by someone higher on the chain than themselves.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

This.

A lot of people don't seem to understand that this is how cases against mob-bosses work. If you're dealing with a slippery high-profile target who has lawyers to boot, you build your case from the bottom-up by turning little fish against bigger fish until your corroborating evidence begins to pile up.

(As a side note, that's like the entire point of RICO cases)

It's why the complaints against Garland are largely unfounded. They act like he did nothing upon assuming office, but he was literally heading the DOJ as they were amidst the largest criminal investigation in the history of the department. As these cases turn investigation->indictments->plea deals and convictions, that evidence can then be utilized to prosecute the case against bigger fish, like Trump and his co-conspirators.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

It means that he has cooperated so they can go after the masterminds...hopefully.

[-] [email protected] 61 points 1 month ago

That's a light sentence, I wonder what the state got in return.

[-] [email protected] 36 points 1 month ago

There was an article yesterday saying the prosecutor requested the grand jury not indict Trump because they weren’t sure if they had enough evidence.

I’m hoping the intent is to find more.

[-] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago

We may find that the states that are prosecuting the fake electors without going after Trump directly have more importance than the GA case. That case gets the most attention, because Trump is directly named in it. But it also gets the most attention from Republicans seeking to protect their God Emperor.

These other cases are just as important, because they establish that this fake elector nonsense has no basis in law, and people who try to pull it off will be prosecuted as the lying liars they are. It makes it harder for Trump to try this again, because if it doesn't work the people who helped him will know for certain they they will be investigated by the States. They can o longer claim it is anything other than a coup attempt.

[-] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

A coup attempt that doesn't result in any jail time or tangible consequences. But, oh well, I'm sure once we get Republicans to say something they'll definitely stand by it and let that guide their future actions, it's not like they've shown themselves to be persistent liars who are obsessed with obtaining political power however they have to do it or anything. /s

e; I agree with the general argument that holding state level Republicans accountable is just as if not more important, fwtw

[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

A coup attempt that doesn't result in any jail time or tangible consequences.

.... Yet. Even if it takes a while to get there, and even if the head guy might get off, all the folks who actually did the dirty work are still being prosecuted, and do not have the unlimited legal/campaign funds that he has to gum up the works. It will make it much harder to find people willing to throw their life into chaos to support a man who will ignore them the first chance he gets.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Or, they'll see that "unsupervised probation" is the price and readily try again, because why not.

[-] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago

Well over 3 years later. Take your time. It's not like a lack of justice would affect democracy or anything...

[-] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

And it's not like being soft on an attempted fascist coup has never backfired on anyone either...

[-] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

A tap on the wrist if that. When are we going to rise up against the wealthy and the oligopolies? It's time to test the safe rooms and modern castles and see if they can withstand the storm. Because that is the only thing that will change how it works. Otherwise, just sit back, do nothing and continue to enjoy the shit show. It's a weird time to be alive.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

And you have that gross Stephen Miller dude on Ari Melber last night claiming that the fake electors were totally legitimate and just citizens practicing free speech being victimized by the government. He was screeching like a Karen about it.

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