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Y'all don't want us. Hard as f to move there unless you have specialized experience

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Quick question! I live in a town in the US that was heavily settled by Finnish people. Meaning saunas are kinda normal for the area and you see Finnish flags flying alongside the US ones.

Point is that I was told it's pronounced SOW-na. Sow pronounced like "OW." Is that true or are the Finnish-Americans fucking with me?

Finland sounds exactly like Minnesota! I'mn

I have met a lot of Finns and they are all pretty great. All a bit mad, but kind and fun.

Plus they don't mind when I make fun of their insane language. 😆

“I think American politics is a joke,” Salah said. “I think we’re seeing that no matter which party is in power, no matter which face it is, it’s kind of the same system.”

Anyone who thinks only American politics are a joke is naive af, and needs to read more non-American news or history

Ya, that's rough. That feels like a very immature take. The two parties are not the same, voting does matter, and I'd even argue that there are people so awful that assassination does make sense but I'm happy Trump survived because I think the Republican party would have been stronger without him.

I left the US, I'm between a millennial and gen z, and I left explicitly because I was worried about the future of the US and because moving abroad is akin to time traveling 20 years into the future. I have healthcare now, I live in a walkable city with great public transit, the crime rates are lower (although most places in the US aren't super violent, the probability of getting murdered goes way down when you leave), I have 6 weeks vacation, essentially unlimited sick time, and I'm not allowed to work overtime.

Both parties are not the same but if Democrats won in a landslide in every single election both state and federal in every chamber and every seat, how many years would it take to achieve all of those same things. I have no doubt these policies would happen with the right people in office, with radical change to the party they could even happen quickly and I believe it's what half the people want. But the two other outcomes are 50/50 with the parties and little gets done in a timely manner and worse the corrupt judges continue to error the system, or the Republicans win one big election just one more time and project 2025 starts getting a percent complete tracker and we slide back into the dark ages.

So I left. I believe if things go bad in the US historians will look at Trump's first victory as a period of brain drain from the country. But that's my two cents to go with this article.

Some countries like Geemany or Italy (some towns) will actually pay you a living wage if you are moving and are a professional, not much mind you, but enough to support you until you can up on your feet. There are other countries with similar programs but I don't remember right now.

EDIT: I forgot the thing with Spain. If you have citizenship with any latin american countries, they will give you a work visa there super easy and cheap. So if you are an American GenZ who's parents are Mexican, then you just got your Mexican citizenship thanks to a recent change in Mexico and can also apply to move to Spain.

For your skilled and educated workers, its very easy. Not to mention your neighbouring countries have experienced brain drain for an entire generation because of higher American salaries.

Prepare to experience brain drain as your best doctors, scientists and engineers easily move to other countries leaving you grasping to have enough people in critical areas.

This is one of the reasons the US excelled as a super power. Getting a constant import of the best and the brightest from around the world makes all your companies more successful and your army stronger and better equipped.

Time to start fixing it? These people are leaving because it's painfully obvious that this shit is on the brink of getting much worse.

medical emergency away from being ~~homeless~~ criminal

Do you have a source that those people leaving are the ones that didn't vote? I would guess that people who consider a measure as drastic as leaving your home country, would vote above average.

Furthermore, I would expect that mainly well-educated people are leaving the US, simply because it's much easier to get a work permit elsewhere. And high education typically also correlates with higher participation in elections.

I didn't have much time right now to a deeper research on these stand points. So if I'm wrong, I'd highly appreciate any sources.

This is America, we will profit from them over there too.

Doesn't it cost to renounce your citizenship too?

Maybe not. It depends.

First, there is a long list of countries where you can deduct a lot of money from your salary if you pay tax in the other country. I think it's like $90 thousand dollars now? So if you make less than that you don't pay US taxes on top of your taxes where you are living.

Second, for basically the same list of countries you can deduct your taxes paid there from your US taxes.

The upshot is this only impacts countries the US empire doesn't deem worthy (I don't know which, sorry), or people who make a lot of money in low tax countries. I am told that both Switzerland and Japan fit that description.

So if you make $150k in Saudi Arabia then you'll end up paying US tax on most of that I think. 😄

The US system of taxing their citizens abroad is unfair, but people living abroad vote in the last place they lived in the US, so they don't have enough concentration of votes to matter. No politician is going to care if 0.02% of their constituents whine about unfair taxes when they have doners at home to appease.