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civil unions were sorta funny. it was like bsd. you can have the same thing but you can't call it marriage. after awhile it becomes obvious its just sorta a stupid waste of time and we will use the same word. Granted I was for it because I know there is a subset of my country that needs the name thing to make it more palatable till their children are grown and don't care.
I’d like to see all laws referencing marriage deleted. Don’t let the government specify what it it’s at all. Get out of the church’s business. But also assign zero rights to it.
If people want to form a union for property ownership or raising children, don’t attach that to the religious concept at all. Just let them do it. This way religious people wouldn’t feel the need to weigh in on who is allowed.
And then we’re not discussing who the government is allowing to marry. Let each church decide which ones they’ll recognize.
Marriage does not have to be religious, and it's not exclusively religious in origin. Many millions of married yet irreligious people who had zero church involvement would take issue with that assertion.
I don't see the point in doing this even if it was. It's just semantics. We'd still need a legal shorthand for all the rights and responsibilities currently attached to marriage, as people would still want that. Then it's just marriage by another name.
Also, I'm not sure any of these countries "force" any church to recognize a marriage they don't agree with. That wouldn't change, since I'm sure different churches would still disagree on which marriages count.
Marriage was political before it was religious. Don't cede aspects of civil life to religious bigots.
It was straight-up bigotry, and I hate every minute I spent arguing that with douchebags on reddit. Mostly people too stupid to figure out "one man one woman" is discrimination on the basis of sex... or too stupid to realize their smug denial was utterly transparent.
If men can only do X and women can only do Y, you don't need a fucking diagram.
The map is outdated.
Greece legalized gay marriage because the current conservative government(which opposed it in the past) decided that it was more useful to deny the "gay marriage" as a weapon for the opposition and made it legal.
Still, only half of their mp supported the bill and the bill passed because the opposition supported it.
The map is outdated.
as the title specifies, it compares years up to 2023. right now it's 2024, which means it's not 2023 anymore. this is how years work.
Sometimes I hate how time is linear.
It's a good overview. As a bonus I would love to see the number of people affected (in absolute numbers and share of global population) in each category for each point in time.
Wow BC and Ontario killing it, who would have thought
I was so sure this map was wrong showing nothing in the UK in the first map, but civil unions came in in 04 not 03.
Also its crazy how this is almost entirely limited to Europe and places with strong historical ties to Europe (with the notable exception of Taiwan)
Why? Who else would come before that? Europe & North America are the most progressive places on Earth for quite a while now.
Its not that its first that is surprising, its that with one exception its only them.
Again: Who else? The rest of the world is in varying degrees of "ass backwards", especially regarding social issues. Hell, a lot of them aren't even moving forward but backward.
I'd really expect southeast asia next considering historical support for third genders there
The thing is that Abrahamic religions were extremely ass backwards on this issue for the longest time. My expectation would be that countries with a majority of atheists or buddhists would never have been as ass backwards about gays in the first place.
IIRC China is supposedly atheist, and so was the Soviet Union, but things were not particularly rosy there either. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_history_in_the_Soviet_Union
Whether religion or not, it's often a case of despicable hardliners taking charge and making things worse for pretty much everyone but them.
What’s the deal with Asia
Opposition in North Africa, the Middle East and parts of South and South East Asia is at least partially explained by religious political ideology.
Russia, as the biggest area, and China might be fueled by opposition to their percieved cultural enemies.
I don't know why India and Japan haven't legalised marriage equality yet.
India? the country with deeply rooted religious society that has little regard for women in general? that India would go for equality?