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[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Harris will still suck, but she'll do a much better job at fighting fascists than Joe did

[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The polling so far gives me doubt.

I want someone who isn't Trump to win this fucking election, I don't personally care who it is as long as they can deliver. My concern is that Harris can't and, if so, she should step back as well.

This isn't a time for "Well I gave it my all". Have a plan to win or GTFO.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 months ago (2 children)

My concern is that Harris can’t

I think she'll get a huge bump when/if she's the named candidate.

Progressives are pretty experienced at holding our noses, especially if there's plausible deniability about the candidate.

I'm a lot more confident in her chances than Joe's, and I think she's the only other option the DNC will give us.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The youth don't traditionally vote for "Not Trump" - we need to actually excite the voters.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What happened in 2020?

Harris will be enough, just like Joe was last time.

Because it's easier to ignore potential disappointment than ignore an ongoing disappointment

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What happened with Clinton?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago

Bill?

He was young, charismatic, and pretended to be very progressive when campaigning...

Worked.out great. Then we doubled down with Obama after that.

Then for some reason after that we've just been running elderly unpopular candidates that are more conservative than Dem voters...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Agreed with this 100%

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I’m ambivalent to slightly negative on Harris (mostly because I still don’t know what her health care plan is) but at least she can express her thoughts coherently. If nothing else I feel confident in her ability to articulate the case against a felon given her background as a prosecutor.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago

Yeah, no one's saying she'll be great.

She just meets the incredibly low bar of looking great next to trump. Joe cant

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

she'll do a much better job at fighting fascists than Joe did

Why do you say this?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

I don’t think Kamala would have fumbled the debate. I think she would have put Trump in his place and called him out on his bullshit lies. We would be having a different discussion and who knows, maybe a loaner kid would still be alive today.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Progress was never won with one candidate.

With one march.

With one speech.

It is a pursuit that we all take on together, one step in front of another. Harris is just one of many many steps to squashing fascism and bringing the treatment that every single American deserves. She’s not a perfectly square brick on our road, but she is a brick nonetheless.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I have an awful feeling Harris will lose if she's chosen by the DNC for us. We need a brief open primary and a debate or two, people need to buy in and have a conversation about who has the best shot at beating the orange turd.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Why not just swap?