Well, I was contemplating Protonmail...
I'm in the process of degoogling and dewindowing. I'll be dammed if I'm going towards ANYthing even related to"artificial intelligence" if I can help it.
Feckin bullshit.
this post was submitted on 18 Jul 2024
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I'm pretty happy with Tutanota all things considered. There are some tradeoffs back and forth between the two, but I think it's neat they run on renewable energy. And they're very focussed on being open source which I also appreciate.
Maybe an option worth looking into. They're also encrypted (though I wish either them or proton had an option not to be) and have a free tier)
Hope you find what you're looking for!
I’ve been using Mailbox.org. I tried Tutanota but the domain name was just awful.
I recommend you get your own domain, then you can’t ever lose your email.
Well it is just tuta now so there is that
Thanks
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Eamonn Maguire, author of the Proton Scribe announcement post, responded to my tweet with this: https://x.com/EamonnMagu14645/status/1814062340863651965
We built this as an opt-in alternative to the non-privacy centric options on the market.
Our goal is always privacy by default, we want to make that possible in the GenAI world too given the number of businesses already using it, and the privacy risks other options pose.
not sure how legit that account is, actually. It's not the one I @'ed - this one was created in Jan 2024 - either it's his low-key alt or a bot
perhaps his plausible deniability account.
do you get banned from twitter if you call him a fucking asshole?
I’m working on a more detailed reply on mastodon but to be honest, I’m pretty sure he didn’t read the original post
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The good news is I barely use Protonmail (or email at all, for that matter).
The bad news is I have a fucking Proton account. Fuck.
they're still least worst, but "oh the fuck no" is the correct reaction
Once they activate the acausality module, you can write those responses before they even send the initial email!
Alright Eschaton
Most email providers already have this feature it's called automatic out-of-office reply.
tbf it's only in the business plans and some of the legacy lifer type plans, but yeah, wildin
just a little violation of my trust for the company I pay for privacy and encryption services. as a treat.
It should be an option that is turned off
it was acausally enabled before you clicked on it, for your comfort and convenience, like the new ad tracker built into Firefox 128
alternatively, if the only version of this that doesn’t break Proton’s e2e security model is the local-only version, maybe don’t ship the cloud hosted version of the feature under any circumstances
I’d still hate the feature because the LLM model’s derived from plagiarized work and the labor of exploited workers from the global south, but this didn’t have to be a fucking privacy catastrophe
Never rely on multi services products from a company. I know it’s more practical but you get the real benefits of having spread services.
I went to Proton for the explicit reason I didn't want Google scanning all my docs. Glad I moved away from them now, hopefully Fastmail doesn't do the same.
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Glad I stuck with mailbox.org.
I'm not familiar with them. What makes them more privacy focused?
It's encrypted and based out of Germany (so, outside of five eyes). The ui is shit but if you use an app for email it's great. They also offer anonymous payment methods if you're into that.
they’re not end-to-end encrypted; their security model involves giving their server both your GPG private key and its passphrase, which makes your inbox and other data trivially able to be subpoenaed by German authorities.
I don’t think this is a replacement for Proton or Tutanota at all.
It's encrypted and based out of Germany (so, outside of five eyes).
[...] your inbox and other data trivially able to be subpoenaed by German authorities
Germany is a member of the Fourteen Eyes alliance and shares data with 9 and 5 eyes members.
I just wanted to put that out there after @[email protected] suggested that the five eyes are the only eyes. They share with Germany and vice versa.
Great, just as I've decided to switch some services to Proton (mail and VPN).
Now I'll have to reconsider this decision.
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