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Edit: every report for these posts goes to me and I'm not taking it down so don't bother.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Conservatives: The intolerant left keeps calling us Nazis!

Nazis: We are voting for Trump.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (6 children)

I like the election posters of "Die Partei" in Germany. Image

"A nazi could hang here!"

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Just need to use the visage of a modern day Christofascist, and then print it all over shit.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Here you go:

nazi getting punched

or maybe

torch carrying nazi

if you really want to capture that christofascist look

I did have a bit of a scroll to see if anyone had made a relevant graphic design, and found this: https://www.nicklacke.com/shop/p/punch-a-nazi-screenprint

drawing of nazi getting punched

but no t-shirts, so I guess it's there for you to do lol

(E: I just realised this might need clarifying - I don't mean put this person's art on t-shirts, but rather that there is very little "punch a nazi" graphic art out there, so you could take inspiration and make your own without stepping on any toes)

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago

Would proudly wear that shirt! 😎

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There's millions of examples of conservatives changing their stance on things. It's almost ALWAYS because it's suddenly affecting their personal lives. They never give a single ioata of care or compassion to other human beings until it is in their life and they have to confront it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

That's so true though. It's all about individualism until they need help.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago (2 children)

bUt yOur BeeINg vIoLenT aNd iNtoLerANt

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

Yup. Welcome to the world

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You going to Akron pride this year? If is bring your flag and I’ll come hang out with you this time :)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

I will likely be there

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago

Screenshot the reports pls I want to laugh. Thankies.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago

The edit is how you know you picked the right instance.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The social contract says we all agree to not kill each other. If party A's fundamental stance is that it is ok to kill X group AND THIS IS TOLERATED then the social contract has been broken and party A has subjected themselves to the same rules they now apply to others.

This is not opinion. This is how it plays out in real life. If your stance is that my life is forefeight or disposable, then so is yours.

Just remember party A made this choice not their victims who choose to fight back.

This is why fascists insist there is no Holocaust. Because if they admitted it they would admit it's fair game on anyone who shares their ideology.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

Oh hey... I just got banned from Political Memes for saying shit like this. I think I found my new home! <3

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (3 children)

are the klan the same as nazis? i always figured they were seperate hate groups

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago

nazis learned alot from the klan and the jim crow era. for the purpose of brick throwing targets, they are the same.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago

They are different, but with considerable ideological overlap.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

The difference is outfits, not core ideologies

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (12 children)

I get that this is posted on the Antifascism community. But it seems more than a little bit bloodthirsty. And it feels to me like the folks in the comments calling out for hunting/murdering Nazis haven't really thought that policy through to its logical conclusion. Maybe some are just fantasizing or virtue signaling, but assuming enough are willing to pick up a rifle and pull the trigger where does that lead us? Who decides whether someone is a Nazi? Do they have to be wearing a swastika? Is it enough to just express your contempt for a group that's a US minority? How much contempt?

"That's easy, just shoot the ones with swastikas"

Okay, so you show up to a flag waving Nazi rally and start shooting. They probably start shooting back. The cops get involved and shoot everybody (well maybe they don't shoot some of the Nazis). Then what happens? Antifa gets officially labeled as a domestic terrorist organization. All the news outlets talk about how terrible the group is. The FBI starts looking into everyone subscribed to this community, etc.

"No, everyone knows Nazis are bad. We'd be supported not condemned."

Alright, suppose somehow it's a revolution and the left is rounding up Nazis and guillotining them with full support of cable news. At that point everyone says they aren't a Nazi. How do you decide? This one talks like a racist, that one lives in an all-white neighborhood, that one is rich. You're walking really close to the line of becoming fascists yourself. France went through a revolution like that about 150 years ago. There's a good article about it on the anarchist library website. I think the takeaway is that a reign of terror is still a reign of terror even if the 'good guys' are in charge.

How about, instead of bloody murder, we expunge the Nazis from the police forces, establish a more socially just system of regulations in the US, and make sure anybody who acts like a Nazi gets punished for it by the state? Don't you think that would be a more effective solution?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Ending nazi lives matters.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Just want to say here that regardless of the political benefits that can be obtained with violence, I do think all lives matter including Nazis, and I think most people can be convinced of this if they can be shown how similar all our experiences are. It seems like once you realize that a Nazi is essentially a version of yourself with slightly different psychological pressures, you can realize that, as painful as it may be, they are human, and your desire for humans not to suffer extends to them. Realizing this doesn't preclude instrumental violence against them, but it can prevent the feeling of hatred.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago

Well, they're gonna kill a bunch of minorities before you can convince enough of them of that. It's not my job or minorities' jobs to make fash realize they're evil. Funny how people defend nazis' lives without putting into account all the damage they're causing to others who aren't them. Some people just don't want to admit it's past time to do some uncomfortable nazi-hurting.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

How Dare you Advocate for violence! This is a Christian Minecraft server!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I wonder if low-life racist losers would buy zero or more than zero guns if this poster went up on every telephone post in the world tomorrow morning.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Reminds me I need to keep offering to buy non-white people as many fucking guns as I fucking can. I would like to pretend the US might love the gun less if more non-white people were better armed.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The answer to that question lies in the Mulford Act.

Proto-God Emperor Reagan hisself signed that one.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Oh. My. Fucking. God. Does the US Republican Party know about this apostasy??!?

Or am I the apostate for expecting them to have a coherent worldview?

I feel lost with this knowledge.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

The first thing that would happen is liberals condemning the call to political violence, and helping to get the signs taken down immediately.

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