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[–] [email protected] 96 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Absolutely! This is the story the media should focussing on.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago

the story the media should focusing on

Yet, the next twenty weeks they will pivot back to a bad debate not his performance, not his many accomplishments 1 , 2. .

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 4 months ago (5 children)

It's a thorough piece of opinion journalism that in 1960 would have helped end Trump's candidacy. But then, if it was 1960 and the country actually valued journalism, Trump would have been disqualified so long ago. In 2024, it probably won't be read by more than a handful of Trump followers, and even they will just sneer at it as confirming their biases about liberal elites.

I'm becoming more and more cynical about November. Swing states are polling way too heavily for Trump - he's leading in most and barely not in just a few. To me the NYT article seems obvious and impossible to dispute, but at this point we've fully partitioned ourselves as a country between those who can spot a con man and those who can't. To those who can't, we let Trump's nihilism metastasize and it's probably too late.

Too much of the country is in the throes of mass delusion, thank you Rupert Murdoch, and I'm pretty sure American democracy has only a few months left to live. I'd love to see a plan, any plan, that realistically leads to a different result. And I am going to vote in November for Biden, or whoever replaces him. But I no longer believe America's ability to do the right thing, even after it's tried everything else (as the saying goes). Now, we've tried Trump and somehow are choosing the vehemently, obviously wrong thing.

Until then, this piece is just a nice epitaph, a "we told you, you should have known" that will remind any MAGA recidivists who eventually experience leopards eating their faces after November, when Trump's next presidency inevitably reveals itself to be an autocratic destruction of American self-rule.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

I find it amazing how short people's memories are.

Did everyone in the US forget COVID-19, and all of Trump's antics during it?

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That's what's mind blowing to me! COVID was way worse than it had to be due to Trump's lack of leadership. Hell, people don't seem to remember that he cut pandemic early warning programs before COVID happened.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (2 children)

This is what infuriated me.

COVID spread is exponential growth, and his early misinformation, failure of leadership, refusal to believe in the danger, and continued botched response was responsible for likely hundreds of thousands of American deaths. Certainly his followers refused to mask and were aggressively in denial even when in hospitals on ventilators. We're at over 1.2 million deaths, and in my opinion even that attribution is conservative.

When even a single American is killed via incompetence by our government, it's congressional hearings and crucifixion. When we have an external force do it, like a certain event in 2001, no price is too high for retribution and deterrence. This man is responsible for 100x those American deaths? Let's make him the most powerful human on the planet.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well, the 60s didn't have a propaganda organization solely devoted to ensuring public opinion wouldn't turn against a criminal Republican president.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

Much less, the global, state–sponsored social media and website propaganda presence we now enjoy.

The only state sponsored media propaganda we had in 1960 was CIA

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

it probably won’t be read by more than a handful of Trump followers

In actuality, most would not care, even if they believed it. They have unshakable faith that their god-emperor will be coming again to save the country from woke and put us on the path of Christian righteousness.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It took an investigative news team and one of the nation's top media organizations eight years to figure that out?

[–] [email protected] 37 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

NYT has been covering for Trump this whole time. Go watch their recent video about Project 2025. It's the most watered down BS that tries to absolve the orange turd from being responsible for it.

IG link

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago

No. As an Opinion column, it’s essentially invalid. They can have an opinion column to reinstate the monarchy. And doubtless have.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 4 months ago

Yeah we know

[–] [email protected] 47 points 4 months ago

donald trump is unfit to exist.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The same New York Times that put up an Op ed from political expert George Clooney yesterday telling Biden to step down. Gotta get the outrage clicks from both sides I guess.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago (10 children)

But he should.

Well, except that apparently the replacement the DNC has in mind is Kamala fucking Harris. I knew it'd be too much to expect them to grow any balls.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Biden should use the recent President is King supreme court ruling to declare both of them unfit to run again.

The new candidates would be roughly on a level playing field to start and hopefully it would open up a extensive conversation about that ruling.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I don't think it matters too much how he does it but he really needs to test that ruling because that's the only way it's going to get any restrictions put on it

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago

The only restrictions are going to be based on which party the president is a member of.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (2 children)

We need this from the New York post or one of those sites.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 months ago (2 children)

NO SHIT. jeezus h christ NY Times tell us something we don't know.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 months ago

Having continuous pieces like this make a difference. Think of how many "Biden has to step aside!" pieces have been written in the past two weeks and how much a part of the political discussion that is. The more time the media takes up shouting from the rooftops that Trump is a threat to America, the more mainstream and central the discourse becomes.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 months ago

He wasn't fit to lead eight years ago either.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago (40 children)

Meanwhile, America ignores this obvious fact to instead focus on….

“BiDeN oLd!”

More news, as it develops.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago (6 children)

FUCK NYT. This opinion is like broken clock being right twice a day.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Remember folks


this is an opinion piece, it is not news.

The reason you may hear more news about Biden being unfit for office than Trump being unfit is in large part because many Dems are calling for Biden to step aside, and it is newsworthy that a candidate faces calls from his own party.

The GOP is not widely calling for Trump to step down.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

And frankly his antics have become normalized.

I read a few pieces saying some political journalists will retire if Trump becomes president, simply because covering him was so exhausting and stressful. I imagine many are still sick of it, and think covering him just gives him more attention anyway.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

And the reason many Dems are calling for him to step aside is because of the snowballing effort of the media to push this story.

I'm not going to argue he's not old, or too old to be president - I had that opinion four years ago. As is Trump too old to be president.

What's insane to me is that there's no counter argument. There are no stories about all the accomplishments his administration has had. How incredibly productive he's been and how much better off this country is today than it was four years ago. The News is not reporting the news - they're reporting speculation. All I see is people complaining about the economy and immigration while no one is pointing out what Biden has done, or has tried to do, to help these matters. The only image they have is of an old man stammering over the course of two hours out of three years.

It's reasonable to assume that most Americans have no clue what the Biden administration has accomplished because the news rarely reports it. And now, in a moment when a wave of opposition is building, you'd think someone - the media, members of congress, Harris, Obama - would make an effort to defend the guy and at least offer some tangible, verifiable actions taken in the past three years.
Here's a few of the first results I found...

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/02/02/joe-biden-30-policy-things-you-might-have-missed-00139046

https://www.whitehouse.gov/therecord/

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2024-opinion-biden-accomplishment-data/

https://joebiden.com/accomplishments/

https://www.factcheck.org/2024/01/bidens-numbers-january-2024-update/

https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-biggest-achievements-first-year-president-1670763

https://washingtonmonthly.com/2024/04/07/introduction-who-got-more-done/
https://washingtonmonthly.com/2024/04/07/trump-vs-biden-who-got-more-done-for-families-and-workers/

https://www.politifact.com/personalities/joe-biden/
https://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/biden-promise-tracker/?ruling=true
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/trumpometer/?ruling=true

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago
[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So much so he has the ability to get people to support Biden. Amazing stuff.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

Water is wet.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

That's just, like, your opinion man. (But fo real mine too)

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