Yup, Google are launching their yearly attempt to convince folks YouTube premium is worth it.
Think of this time not as an annoyance, but as a time to reflect on how shitty Google has become.
this post was submitted on 10 Jul 2024
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Lol I don't need this to remind me. I already know and think of it (regrettably) often.
YouTube changed something about their API to break 3rd party apps again. youtube-dl is also broken, but they've found the issue already, so it'll likely be fixed after a while.
GrayJay and YouTube ReVanced still work in meantime.
I wonder why grayjay is still fine but youtube-dlp isn't. strange
Same, i tried Grayjay today and i was surprised about how well and reliably it worked. Does someone know why?
My guess (and it's only a guess, I haven't looked at the source code) is that the scraping is being done on a server end that they can update without having to push an app update.
edit: my guess was wrong, I found where the source code is and they do the parsing locally - however it's a plugin that I assume gets loaded in on app start so they can still update it without having to publish a new apk. this is the fix
interestingly although Grayjay itself is proprietary this plugin is Affero GPL licensed.
Yt-dlp still works for me on Android, but only for h264 videos. When I try to download VP9, I get an error.
I've switched to FreeTube for now, it still works using the Invidious API. This is happening because YouTube is testing forced login to watch videos or use the API. There is a workaround it seems, but we'll have to wait for all the major clients to roll it out.
I really want to see what the fuck google will do for embedded videos or shared videos on chats like discord.
Yup, same here. Youtube broke something so you'll have to wait for an update. Grayjay is still working for me if you need another app to see videos.
Just in case this matters to OP or anyone else in this thread, Grayjay isn't Open Source, despite Rossman's and FUTO's claims to the contrary. Its license disallows any commercial use of Grayjay, and also disallows removing any features related to paying FUTO. Which disqualify Grayjay as "Open Source" by the OSI's definition.
And consequently, F-Droid won't distribute Grayjay unless they change their license.
AFAIK FUTO/Rossmann, to their credit, stopped trying to openwash themselves. They created their own phrase "source-first" to describe their proprietary EULA.
That doesn't change the fact that it's proprietary and not worth promoting here.
Oh! That's good to hear. Honestly, that issue has kindof pissed me off enough at Rossmann specifically that I kindof quit watching his YouTube videos and stuff. So I very much haven't been following him or FUTO.
I wonder if the FUTO website still claims that they require all projects to be or have a plan to become specifically "Open Source".
Edit: Yup. They still say "All FUTO-funded projects are expected to be open-source or develop a plan to eventually become so" on this page. Maybe that means that they intend for Grayjay to "develop a plan to eventually become" properly Open Source and not just "source first".
Agreed, but it is working, you don't HAVE to pay, and I can remain anonymous.
That's good enough for me.
I am tired of big company bullshit. I don't care anymore. YouTube was the only big brother service which I can't replace but now I don't give a single fuck.(They IP blocked me on their official site)
They IP blocked me on their official site
So,... What did you do?
Just watch on their website without account. That's all.
You used a VPN... Right?
Nope, Now I use VPN if I have to watch something Goddamn I didn't have static IP.
I've exactly the same problem since yesterday. Didn't search for a solution, i usually just wait for next release when problems like this appears.
Most Piped instances are also not working because they use NewPipe Extractor under the hood.
As someone else said in this thread, I have also temporarily switched to FreeTube for Android, because a few of the Invidious instances are still working fine.
The nice thing about the FOSS world is that it's pretty easy to import subscriptions and other stuff from NewPipe to FreeTube.
I hope this YouTube fuckery is handled soon. I love NewPipe way more every time it successfully deals with the YT weirdos.
This sometimes happens when youtube changes something, usually fixed after some days.
we really need a FOSS decentralized video sharing platform to take hold
I'd love for that to happen, but without being paid by a central company, content creators won't...create content. Will it work with content creators own sponsors? Mmm...I don't know
Early YouTube was exactly this, though. Content creators creating for the sake of the content. Sponsors helped a lot, sure, but the vast majority did it without them. Also, current YouTube, many content creators don't or can't monetize. They still create.
Yes, you're right. Are we able to go back? I mean, do they want to go back from being paid to almost nothing? And if I'm not mistaken, professional YouTubers produce a quality of videos that didn't exist back in the days.
Lemmy is a good case study, I would say. Reddit was the epitome of "the front page", until it wasn't. Then many moved to Lemmy, and it was just ok for a while. Now it's getting to where Reddit was before it lost its shite. Not a perfect comparison due to the YouTube monetization, I know, but a good rags->riches->enshitified->rags->riches story. And production quality is much less important, IMO, than content. And, yes, content did increase over the years, but a part of that was video editing technology improvement. Let's take LTT as an example. Before monetization, they had low production quality, but incredible content value videos. Now, the production value (and their paychecks) improved a lot, but the content value isn't what it used to be. It's not bad, it's just less focused on what it used to be. Is that bad? Probably not. But it also means we can start over, and get to the same monetization that we're at now, but without enshitification.
Edit: and I'm not even touching "influencers" in the main comment, who, IMO, don't matter in the grand scheme. They can stay on yt or disappear completely. In fact, if they did disappear, it would make a significant positive impact to the overall content library.
Do you have a link to the main tracking issue with NewPipe? I tried to look through their GitHub repo, but most of the issues I saw were about the 59-second bug, or they had been closed as duplicate without linking to the duplicate issue.
I have a 1.5 hour commute, and watching downloaded videos on NewPipe is a major part of my strategy for getting through it.
I don't think that's the right issue. The behavior I see is a network error toast message that says check the notification for details (with no notification). This issue says the behavior is the "content unavailable" screen, which I don't see.
Damn, same here. I copied the error report, YouTube is apparently being fucky again...
Exception
- User Action: play stream
- Request: Player error[type=ERROR_CODE_IO_BAD_HTTP_STATUS] occurred while playing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0GFRcFm-aY
- Content Country: US
- Content Language: en-US
- App Language: en_US
- Service: YouTube
- Version: 0.27.0
- OS: Linux motorola/lake_revvl_n/lake_n:10/QPW30.142-Q3-28-25/4cbcf:user/release-keys 10 - 29
com.google.android.exoplayer2.ExoPlaybackException: Source error
at com.google.android.exoplayer2.ExoPlayerImplInternal.handleIoException(ExoPlayerImplInternal.java:644)
at com.google.android.exoplayer2.ExoPlayerImplInternal.handleMessage(ExoPlayerImplInternal.java:616)
at android.os.Handler.dispatchMessage(Handler.java:103)
at android.os.Looper.loop(Looper.java:241)
at android.os.HandlerThread.run(HandlerThread.java:67)
Caused by: com.google.android.exoplayer2.upstream.HttpDataSource$InvalidResponseCodeException: Response code: 403
at org.schabi.newpipe.player.datasource.YoutubeHttpDataSource.open(YoutubeHttpDataSource.java:422)
at com.google.android.exoplayer2.upstream.DefaultDataSource.open(DefaultDataSource.java:263)
at com.google.android.exoplayer2.upstream.TeeDataSource.open(TeeDataSource.java:52)
at com.google.android.exoplayer2.upstream.cache.CacheDataSource.openNextSource(CacheDataSource.java:796)
at com.google.android.exoplayer2.upstream.cache.CacheDataSource.open(CacheDataSource.java:609)
at com.google.android.exoplayer2.upstream.StatsDataSource.open(StatsDataSource.java:84)
at com.google.android.exoplayer2.source.chunk.InitializationChunk.load(InitializationChunk.java:99)
at com.google.android.exoplayer2.upstream.Loader$LoadTask.run(Loader.java:412)
at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:1167)
at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:641)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:919)
Where else should I publish videos as well as youtube?
Not entirely sure. I would say PeerTube, maybe? There are others, like Odysee, but they tend to have interesting communities (to stay within rules of conduct). But YouTube was similar in its early days, too, so :shrug:
Piped and Yewtu.be as well.
My local Piped instance still works.
That's good. Maybe there will be a fix soon.
It happened on and off the past two weeks or so but was considered not a bug in an earlier report I saw. I also encountered it a few times, but since about 24 hours ago I have had no luck playing anything.
Likely changes or countermeasures on G's side, or part of the embedded as changes that is being talked about, is my guess.
Does someone know why Grayjay works perfectly?
Yo! Grayjay still works!
Edit: I didn't realize people were so sensitive about alternative options. I'm not a NewPipe developer, so I can't fix it, but I have confirmed that as of right now it isn't working.
Use whatever app works for you, IDGAF
I don't have any opinion on grayjay but this is the open source community and grayjay is proprietary. That's the only reason I downvoted your comment
Feel free to use it if it works for you but I think it's poor form to advertise proprietary products in a thread about a free software project.
Their source code is available online silly. You can recompile it however you want, you just can't redistribute it.
https://github.com/futo-org/grayjay-android
Edit: They also now have an F-Droid repository.
@over_clox Which means it's not open-source, silly, because open-source explicitly means you can redistribute it.
Oh bitch bitch. So what? Is your only interest in taking their code and trying to profit from it?
Fucking hell, folks told me it would never show up on F-Droid for such nitpicky terms, but they got their own repository now.
@over_clox The lack of redistribution is what's causing projects to disappear and die, vendor lock-in, walled gardens, bricked devices.. you clearly have no idea what you are talking about
I'm just gonna drop this link here, make of it and FUTO in general whatever you will. They actually are privacy centric..
It casts?! I'm sold!
But I'm not sure how i feel about downloading an apk like that.
Hey, it's a damn fine app, but at the same time don't take my word on it..