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Finally watched Tenet. After all the hype and discussion on Reddit when it was released, I was expecting some sort of neigh-on impenetrable profound piece of cinema, but it's just Primer with action sequences.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I watched it on my phone to spite the director.

Wasn't worth perpetuating a pandemic.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I enjoyed it. I'm a sucker for time travel concepts. This one was done in a fun way. So, it has one fan at least.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I still can't get over the ridiculous audio mixing...the dialog in some scenes is virtually inaudible, which is the last thing you want in a movie with such a convoluted plot. I love most of Nolan's work but Tenet is by far my least favourite.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't really understand why people act like I'm bullshitting when I say it wasn't confusing. Don't get me wrong, it wasn't linear, but I understood the basic concept.

There are parts that go "forwards" in time and there are parts that go "backwards" in time and the streams of events influence each other when they meet. The relative perception of the characters is that all events go "forwards". Some characters pass through the macguffin machine and their flow starts going backwards, and they influence themselves in both directions. Past this, you just have to watch the story happen.

The only confusing thing about the movie is the visuals. We're not exactly used to watching shit happen backwards so shit looks weird sometimes. The big fight with a ton of soldiers was probably the worst at that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I'm still convinced that it was only the soldiers moving forward and backward in that scene and no one else was there.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The only confusing part was when people were speaking (until I turned captions on).

I swear Nolan needs to listen to his audio team more often.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

That’s his secret: he doesn’t have an audio team.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I enjoyed it, but I agree with you. Nothing too groundbreaking in it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Chris Nolan automatically gets a pass at this point for "groundbreaking" even when it's boring. I don't get it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

You have to watch it 10 Times, in reverse

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It was groundbreaking in terms of how some of the action looked I guess but the rest of the movie was straight to DVD quality with top class talent due to the director.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

That's a good take, I hadn't thought of comparing it to Primer. In Primer, it's clear Shane Carruth thought out all the implications of his time travel system. I don't get that feeling from Tenet, where it feels like Nolan thought it would be cool and didn't go further. What you end up with is a movie that's fun while you're watching it but falls apart once it's over and you think about it for more then 5 minutes.

The scene I think is the most egregious is the air terminal fight. It's a cool idea in theory but a fist fight between two individuals going in opposite directions in time would immediately result in a paradox. It's hard to explain but it essentially boils down to the fact that both fighters are reacting to their opponents reaction to the move they're about to make.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Great concept, bad script, fantastic screenplay making the most of the terrible script with some truly great set pieces, great cast, great visuals, terrible audio mixing, sums it up for me.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm surprised that you say that there was a lot of hype when it was released. I remember seeing a lot of hype before it came out, but all of the discussion I saw when it was released was just complaints about the audio mixing and lack of character development.

For the record I like the movie as an action movie. I feel like it's at a similar quality to most of his Batman movies and Inception in that sense. I just don't think it was ever intended to be profound or particularly deep (outside of the standard complexity that comes with a time travel story)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I really disliked this movie, there were some really well done scenes but I feel like it was just a bad film.

The whole movie is about palindromes and we don't finish where we begin.

The main character doesn't get a name and explanations are just poor "don't think about it". Even if we weren't to think about it it could have been presented better.

Washington was boring in this, and he isn't boring generally speaking. Robert Pattinson is probably the best in this but he can't make it interesting.

I was disappointed despite some fantastic scenes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

As real SF I preferred Primer.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I was disappointed. Nolan usually does a good job of grounding his "concept" movies in human personalities and relationship. I understand how he was trying to do that in Tenet, but it just didn't work. The result was a movie full of action set pieces without anything to hold them together.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I want to watch it again. Maybe going in not expecting certain things to happen that drives a story. Like you know, character motivation.

But to watch it like it’s a visual jigsaw puzzle.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Patrick Willems made a good video about Tenet. He calls it a Vibes Movie, in his explanation all the secret agent movies, like Bond, Mission Impossible, are vibes movies where the plot is actually meaningless. Tenet ups this to eleven. IMHO Nolan is a serial perpetrator of over his own head concepts, but I nevertheless like his movies because the're at least not franchises.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Still haven’t seen it yet, but I wonder if it’s not reminiscent of his earlier film Memento, which also played with time, in a way. It’s not literal time travel, but it at least plays with timing before the viewer realizes what’s going on.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It is completely different from Memento in every way

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fleur Delacour says it best in the movie:

Don't try to understand it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That was a bad scene

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago

Definitely not a fan. I turned it off after 30 mins. You cannot possibly try to sell a professional hitman that has supressors sounding like, well, a movie supressor/silencer.

This is not the only thing I disliked, but it's the only one I remember. It was quite forgettable for me.