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[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago (9 children)

Go check your privacy settings in Firefox - they've switched on sending data to advertisers by default as of Firefox 128. Even Google sent this setting out default off, probably having spoken to an actual lawyer who mentioned the GDPR.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (5 children)

Sounds like a good idea to piss off your primary user base, because at this stage I feel the only people singing Firefox's praise are privacy advocates who won't touch Chrome & friends with a ten-foot pole.

(I have the feeling that this comes from the same shithead who pushed to include spicy autocomplete in Firefox.)

It's also enabled in the dev builds, by the way. I just checked.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Over at "work on climate" there's been an influx of companies that will greenwash using ChatGPT. One company I interviewed for (in my estimation it) boiled down to using ChatGPT to make generic greening recommendations for a business and attach hallucinated numbers that the client can then pass off for themselves.

Edit: is there a list of companies that use "prompt engineering" so that I can just avoid them?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (7 children)

found this linked in ed zitron comment section for some reason: https://www.funraniumlabs.com/2024/04/phil-vs-llms/

With a moment’s contemplation after reading it, I just realized how spectacularly bad this could go if, for example, you went to do a search for an chemical’s Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) and a Large Language Model (LLM) gave you back some bullshit advice to take in the event of hazmat exposure or fire.

joke's on you, MSDSs are already dogshit. these things only exist to cover ass of manufacturers and are filled with generic, useless advice https://www.science.org/content/blog-post/uselessness-msds https://www.science.org/content/blog-post/un-safety-data-sheets there is MSDS for sand, MSDS for tear gas and ethanol lists the same dangers, toxicity is overemphasized (because it's common) and some other dangers like explosiveness are underappreciated (because it's not), we don't even need LLMs for this, humans (lawyers mostly i guess) did the same on accident

also bonus points for first-principling what could have been instead of asking somebody that actually knows, like any proper rationalist would do. also, vinyl chloride is not reactive with water and spraying pressurized containers with water can be a sensible thing to do, because this cools them down, so it decreases pressure meaning it decreases risk of rupture, which would be a bad thing, if manageable for firefighters to do it safely. see: some fires involving propane tanks

An MSDS may not tell you what respirator to use;

Slander! MSDS will tell you to use the right one ("appropriate respirator"), it's your job to figure out what it is

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

MSDSs are already dogshit

one of those cases of "minimum legally required" type of things? maybe with a dash of "the specification and requirements were written ${time} ago and haven't evolved a lick since then, despite much shift in industry and progress"?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

there are no real enforced requirements of accuracy, most of typical known hazards are covered by generic useless advice and everything else is just filled by "no information"

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (3 children)

we've reached some zenith of insane facebook AI slop

hot Japanese cabin crew, barefoot, on a farm, with Jesus

(image)

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (2 children)

a deficiency of tractors in the training data

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)

a deficiency of tractors in the training data

Just one more dataset bro, i promise bro just one more dataset and it'll fix everything bro. bro just one more dataset

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

I'm also glad to see that whatever incremental improvements have been made the system is still unable to consistently do hands.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

with south california band reject jesus, no less

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

we think that's supposed to be Korean or Japanese Jesus, insofar as anything out of an AI is supposed to be anything

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (6 children)

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-02218-7

Might be slightly off topic, but interesting result using adversarial strategies against RL trained Go machines.

Quote: Humans able use the adversarial bots’ tactics to beat expert Go AI systems, does it still make sense to call those systems superhuman? “It’s a great question I definitely wrestled with,” Gleave says. “We’ve started saying ‘typically superhuman’.” David Wu, a computer scientist in New York City who first developed KataGo, says strong Go AIs are “superhuman on average” but not “superhuman in the worst cases”.

Me thinks the AI bros jumped the gun a little too early declaring victory on this one.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (6 children)

https://t.co/rBxJwxtqDl

Medium article about Yud came across my dash (I hope the link works).

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Here's a link that bypasses the URL shortener.

Also: ew.

Perilous Waif follows the story of its narrator Alice Long, a cybernetically enhanced orphan with a variety of superhuman powers in the 25th century. One of these enhancements causes Alice’s body to grow very fast, giving her the body of a thirteen year old at just age six.

nopetopus

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

Thanks for posting this. I live in Sweden and many of these actors are new to me.

FWIW we have our own word for people who try to hijack the judicial system with spurious lawsuits etc: rättshaverist ("justice wrecker"). I don't believe the Roman/German law system really meshes well with the SovCit movement in common law systems, but I'm sure people are trying to apply it.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

If Books Could Kill back with Hanania's piece of work https://pod.link/1651876897/episode/afe6b965e80359c1edbb86f78bde3997

opening line "This book's so fucking stupid, I regret choosing it"

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (5 children)

https://xcancel.com/kitten_beloved/status/1810709361175691474

In which TPOT unites to yell at scooter because he isn’t down with mental health apartheid schemes.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (3 children)

that twitter account is absolutely something

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I've been out-of-the-loop for a bit on the Nix drama. Is there a good summary of the last couple weeks?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (6 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

Man there was a long thread about different forms of self-identifying as Muslim that was finally purged by mods after 2 days.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

So remember when Google Domains got sold off to Squarespace because it wasn't profitable enough and Google has the attention span of a squirrel?

Well that meant bye bye MFA for anyone who didn't check their email diligently enough, allegedly leading to a number of cryptocurrency domains getting hacked.

The cryptocurrency aspect is mostly just funny, but Google and Squarespace should know better than to effectively disable MFA out from under people. Tech companies put profit over people all the time. And then everyone blames the people for not being hyper-vigilant about computer security.


Edit: The tweet linked in that bleepingcomputer article is funny if this was indeed the issue: https://twitter.com/pendle_fi/status/1811683909509558562

Some "defi" company realized this could be a problem 22 hours before they were hacked. Even had time to write a tool to mitigate the impact of getting hacked. Got hacked anyway. Did they uhh... IDK change their password? Make sure MFA was set up? They don't say.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (2 children)

"Any messages beyond this tweet from anyone claiming to be from Pendle is a scam"

33 replies from scammers. Holy shit.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I know cryptocurrency people have a weirdly high tolerance for getting scammed and blaming the victim, but the twitter spam is constant now. You'd think they'd get tired of it at some point and switch to a platform that lets them moderate better.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

presumes that people know there's better possible

soapbox.gif: you see a dynamic of this sort with a lot of people who have largely only ever interacted with "the internet" through vendor-mediated apps and shit. you can often pick up on it by people that speak in frames of "this app" - the app is their gateway to that engagement, and they have never known substantially otherwise. and it's a day-vs-night type difference in experiences in so many cases! there are some sites that I outright refuse to even open on mobile simply because the anti-nagblocker/etc capabilities that I have on RealComputer with RealOS (i.e.: not some artificially hobbled shit run by a monopolist fuckwad company) just completely block the annoying shit, whereas it is almost impossible to have that experience on mobile

and for so many people, the latter type (of experience/internet) is all they ever know

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

hey if the cost of operations is a tweet (or an openai chatgpt api call) and the possible reward is a couple dozen suckers at $200-equiv, Von Neumann ends up with a hangover

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

Can't wait to find out that the Perseid meteor shower, which has inspired humanity for centuries, is actually just Von Neumann probes from a long-dead civilization that spam their equivalent of tea.xyz pull requests on any planet that has advanced to hosting source forges.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

"toughened up our defenses" like adding DNS monitoring. so they just ... didn't have that before? for a user-facing public web service? cool.

(and yeah lol at how little detail the rest of this covers)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

code is lol

all these libertarian pyramid schemes sit at convenient crosssection of high reward and low probability of being caught, which makes me believe that no good people were harmed in this incident

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (7 children)

(I’ll try put a decent summary of links on this later)

there’s a UK party that (aiui) committed electoral crimes by submitting non-existing genML-created people as candidates, a whole new usecase!

gonna be real fun to see that catching sunlight, if TNI manages to do due process right

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

what a coincidence, "aiui" is the sound I make when I get caught doing electoral crimes.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

The "Thank you Grock" at the bottom made my day

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (5 children)
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[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

orbstack 1.6.4:

Debug Shell: AI-powered package install suggestions for commands

in the app upgrade popup it's just bare text. in the documentation for debug shell there's no reference. in the release notes feed it's the same bare text

I've already sent feedback asking for more information about it, but just ..... what? I mean there's that annoying(-to-me) ubuntu shell hook that goes "oh hey $binary not found, try installing $pkg!" already, and that's been out for years, but what?

if/when I hear more I'll post comment I guess. in the meantime consider me fucking bewildered.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I’m pretty sure this is just a handy convenience around launching another container that has debug tools in all the same namespaces (network, pid, user, filesystem, …) as the other. Kubernetes has a similar thing and it’s pretty handy.

Edit: oooooh wait, I misread your entire comment: you were referring to the ai-powered install instructions. Oops, and yep, that is a big yikes. Wow.

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