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[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I do not trust any "livability" statistic that lists Frankfurt as the most livable city in Germany.

Also, the chart does not give its selection criteria. Medium sized cities to cities on the smaller side are completely missing. I get not including towns, that would overwhelm the graph.

Then again, what even is a city, what sets it apart from a town? Different regions in Europe have vastly different definitions of that, with the UK's definition being particularly notable for how useless it is.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Some of the others high up on that list are equally absurd. OK, Zürich and Geneva are maybe nice if you are a millionaire, but for everyone else they are absolutely unaffordable.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Perhaps the liveability index gives extra points for:

  1. An open drug scene full of crackheads at the main rail station
  2. A lot of Gangsta rappers from the city
  3. Being a hub of financial crime

So Frankfurt scored well on those

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

It has Paris in there, lmao.

If someone forced me at gunpoint to live in Paris, I'd wrestle the gun off of them and then shoot myself.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This has got to be one of the worst designed charts I've seen

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Why make it circular? Are normal bar charts not good enough?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Kyiv is in a literal warzone. I would expect it's livability to be much lower.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

It's kind of an insult to Istanbul at this point.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I love that this equally pisses off all Europeans though haha. Personally I can see how Copenhagen is high and oof yeah why Kyiv is last (would love to see it bounce back up after they win).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Non Parisian french are fuming rn

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Pretty insane that Moscow and St. Petersburg only rank a little higher than a the Ukrainian capital that is suffering from drone attacks and power outages on the regular.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

This ranking looks worthless and they're very vague on how they make it, you can only get a free summary.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Theres a lot german citys i would prefer over Frankfurt and Düsseldorf(and also over munich and hamburg especially since munich is the most expensive City in germany)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Brought to you by the institute for made up numbers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

How is Frankfurt ending up so high on that list?!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Which Frankfurt?

  • Frankfurt am Main
  • Frankfurt (Oder)
  • Stadt Frankfurt (Sachsen Anhalt)
  • Ježkov (german name Frankfurt)
  • Kap Frankfurt (Russia)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

If nothing is specified it's usually Frankfurt am Main

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Why would they include Frankfurt an der Oder but not Frankfurt am Main? I'm pretty sure they mean the latter and this graph is nonsense...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

You‘re right, I thought of Frankfurt am Main, but if it’s one of the others they could be livable. I only have been to Frankfurt am Main, and thats about the last place I would like to end up…

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

It has a reason why Germans constantly joke about it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

How is Berlin (see ach_berlin.txt) higher than Munich?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

And all other European cities are less liveable than Kyiv? I find that hard to believe

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Some would make the bold claim that a hot war doesn't make for a very good local vibe..

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

They do not monitor all cities in Europe, the listed ones are the 41 cities analysed by the EIU.

https://www.eiu.com/n/vienna-secures-its-position-as-the-worlds-most-liveable-city-for-third-consecutive-year/