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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

It's also missing the pledge to not arrest people for eating bacon. Can we please get away from this ridiculous American style politics.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

What a weird article. It talks as if abortion is illegal in the UK. It is not illegal.

I think it's talking about at what point in the pregnancy abortion is allowed. I think most would agree that there is a point at which elective abortion should be off the table (e.g. would anybody argue for an abortion to be allowed the day before birth?). So the debate is about when that point is. A fair debate, but articles like this don't help.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Isn't the law that you can only do it until the baby can survive outside of the womb? Which is around 20 weeks. Sounds pretty reasonable.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It is perfectly reasonable.

But abortion is a big issue in the US and the UK media love to import US debate topics and try to make them relevant here.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

BLM and ACAB were a similar thing. Yes, we do have our own problems here, especially in the MET Police, but it's less of a systemic thing and moreso isolated incidents.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

the only reason it would ever be performed a day before birth is because the pregnant person would die otherwise so yes there should be no limits on when it's off the table

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

There's a reason I put the word "elective" in my post. Your hypothetical is not an elective situation. It's an emergency procedure and so would not be covered by the legislation.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

So because there’s moral limits to when it would “ever be performed”, there should be no legal limits to when it would ever be performed? Surely by that logic we don’t need laws against murder either, after all, that would be immoral and sometimes you have to kill people in self defence, so murder laws just get in the way.

This coming from a pro choice person, I do think there’s a good justification for allowing later abortions, but as the previous poster said, it’s not helpful to pretend there’s no complexity or that there should be no limits at all.