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Elon Musk appearance at Valorant Champions tournament met with boos, crowd chanting 'bring back Twitter' (www.pcgamer.com)

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm so confused why they thought the Valorant crowd would like Elon. The only people that still like him are crypto bros and edgy twitter users

[+] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

You are equating a large group of People with the tiny portion focused upon by media.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are no capital-G Gamers following Valorant.

Remember that video games are now the largest media industry in the world. Remember that gamergate happened almost 10 years ago now, and that Valorant is only 3 years old.

The kids playing and watching Valorant probably don't even know enough about the controversy to make the connection. They just know an asshole when they see one.

Honestly I don't even think capital-G Gamers play games anymore. It's an aging demographic that is too bitter and stupid to keep up.

[+] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This boils down to "bad people are everywhere" which is universally true, to the point that it's barely worth mentioning. You will find shitty takes and hateful people everywhere if you go out looking for it.

The question is whether the bad people are running the show, or if the bad is endemic to the culture. I don't think you can say that of every fandom, or of gaming enthusiasts in general in 2023. And specifically I don't think it's fair to compare to the Valorant fanbase to something like the 2004 Smash Bros Melee fanbase.

There's still progress to be made and bad eggs to be found in every basket, but I think there's been enough mainstream attention and a hot enough crucible of scrutiny that we are for the most part beyond the era of "this tournament brought to you by actual rapists and chomos, don't forget to bring your racist slurs, misogyny, and homophobic taunts to the stage for everyone to enjoy"

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lots of "this not all Germans are Nazis bullshit" vibe you got going suggests you may need to look in the mirror a bit more before posting your rants.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Nah, they are an avid gamer, too. A German themselves, in your analogy.

This is just what Twitter poisoning looks like. Full visibility and obsession of the negative, completely blind to growth, improvement, and positivity.

Some of the top eSports representatives in the world today include people like SonicFox, a gay black furry, and Scarlett, a trans woman. Still operating at the peak of their arenas and with huge fanbases of their own. And that's only two examples; the FGC in particular has recently seen an almost comical amount of LGBT+ folks getting comfortable enough to finally reveal themselves. But instead of celebrating that, or even just celebrating any incident in which Musk gets booed, we're still talking about that one time a journalist was slut-shamed a decade ago.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Precisely the point I was trying to make. Thank you for making it better.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“Gamers” are notoriously obnoxious shithead edgelords.

Especially those playing competitive pvp games.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Show us on the doll where the twelve year old CoD fortnite player hurt you.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks for proving my point.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your point being that you can out edge lord the whiniest of twelve year olds was well made already.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Thanks for proving my point.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You’re kinda making things worse.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you say so, dude. Don't let my pointing out that toxic condemnation of whole groups of People you know nothing about is no less toxic than the behavior being attributed to said group dampen the whole toxic condemnation vibe y'all got going.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Any gamer who won't admit that the competitive pvp crowd (namely fps and moba) aren't toxic and prone to slinging slurs around is lying to themself. Obviously that doesn't encompass anywhere near the entire fan base of those games, but we also can't pretend it's not an issue.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Dude, I play games every day, and I read manga, manhwa, and manhua. There are tons of shitty attitudes, racism, bigotry, and misogyny I see everyday. Comment section I read just a few mins ago where the manhwa is discussing how dark magic isn't really evil, a comment shows KKK image in an HH salute with the comment "I hate everything that's dark."

I know lots of good people from those communities also, but they don't defend the community like you're doing. Admit it has a problem, even if you love it. Nothing is perfect, and so nothing is without problems. Pointing it out can help reduce those problems or let your fellow community members know you don't find it funny or acceptable. If you just stick your head in the sand then claim "not all _______", it's equivalent to not acknowledging the issue and asking the rest of us to just accept it as is.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Twitter's dead, fools.

You don't want twitter back, you want Elon gone, if you only cared about the name, then you deserve X.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I find the whole situation rather amusing.

So many people on "X" apparently hate Elon and yet they refuse to leave the platform. It's pathetic.

The world would be a better place if the average man had a backbone.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Always keep in mind that most people are not on Twitter/X

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Eh, most terminally online people are or were.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

What I was trying to say was that if the above poster made the conclusion, "disliking the platform you're on" = "not having a backbone", and that the "average" person was on Twitter/X; that might not be correct as most people are not on Twitter/X. I think a lot of us are recovering from the idea that Twitter/X is reality, but sometimes it still slips through.

TLDR; the people on Twitter/X are a super minority.

Apologies if I misunderstood your comment.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

It's the same on all social media though. People on reddit that hate spez, zuckerburg haters on facebook/instagram. It's a weird thing, honestly.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I don't care about Twitter either way. I love this just for the fuck with Musk aspect.