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    [–] [email protected] 140 points 5 months ago (17 children)

    These people who hate GIMP didn't really practice with it all that much. I use for my day job, editing photos and making content for marketplaces. It works very well. The workflow may be different to PS, yes, but that does not make GIMP bad. Also, for those who hate the UI, two things. First, why don't you help the dev team? And second, we'll have GTK3 support soon (finally).

    [–] [email protected] 71 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    I tried. I really tried to like GIMP. The main reason I don't like it is because it's trying so hard to be a professional picture editor and the UI.

    Why can't I deselect things? Why does something need to be selected at all times? Let me just click a button and remove the selection outline and deselect things.

    No. I won't help the dev team because I can't code to save my ass. I turn wrenchs and fix things for a living.

    I use other, simpler pic editors. Why should I learn to fly a Boeing 747 when a Cessna 172 will get me where I need to go? I'm making a shit post once every three months, not professional art.

    [–] [email protected] 27 points 5 months ago (7 children)

    You can deselect all with CTRL + SHIFT + A and deselect a specific part by changing the selection mode from replace or additive to subtract.

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    [–] [email protected] 33 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    GIMP is bad. If the problem was simply that it was "different to PS" then other apps like Krita and Affinity Photo would have the same reputation.

    If a user goes looking for a tool or feature and it's not in the first place they look, that's a problem of "didn't really practice that much". If experienced people need to look up how to do basic operations and their reaction is "that's fucking stupid", then the software is bad.

    To then say "well why don't you help the Dev team then" is insane. I'm not spending hundreds of hours digging GIMP out of bad design decisions when I could just use better software and I haven't seen any evidence that my PR would even be accepted.

    Nobody needs excuses and apologism, they need Blender for image editing and GIMP just isn't that.

    [–] [email protected] 39 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    I mean, I've been using GIMP as my primary photo editor for...over a decade. When I use other programs, nothing is where I expect it to be and I think "well, that's fucking stupid"

    [–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago (8 children)

    Have you thought about applying for a job at Adobe and fixing it?

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    [–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    So you open any other image editor, click the rectangle select button, draw a rectangle, then select a move button beside the rectangle select tool, then it moves the rectangle you just selected and you think "That's fucking stupid, it should've moved the entire image, not the rectangle I just selected!"

    Really?

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    [–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

    I've been using GIMP since the very dawn, I use plenty of other image editors for variety of reasons (Affinity Photo, DxO PhotoLab, ArtRage, Clip Studio), and I have no problems with the UIs in any of them.

    Yet every time I use Adobe software I'm like "why is it doing this? Why is it designed this way? Who thought that was a good idea? This is stupid."

    [–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

    'help the dev team' is a lunatics response. I use Linux but fuck the users man.

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    [–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    I think what burns people the most is that after Photoshop 5 or so, GIMP stopped keeping up with all the improvements in the later Photoshop versions. People making the jump from 2024 Photoshop to 1996 Photoshop UI/UX are gonna have a bad time.

    Edit: as a software developer I can say that I've never seen a user more frustrated, sometimes even irrationally so, when they are forced to re-learn muscle memory to perform a familiar task. I've also seen people practically riot at the mere suggestion that this will happen. If you wish to curry favor with your userbase, never ever, remove keyboard accelerators, move toolbars around, break workflow, etc.

    [–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    I'm just glad they added non destructive editing in the latest version. I've tried to rotate/resize something in gimp before and it was a chore to keep quality acceptable.

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    [–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    I know it's a consequence of open source development, but I just absolutely despise the file picker. Everything else is dreamy.

    [–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

    Everything else is dreamy.

    Gimp spolied me. Now every time I'm forced to use a GUI app with lots of dropdown menu items, I get irrationally angry that I can't just hit / to search through them like I can in gimp lol.

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    [–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

    Had to learn Gimp in 4th or 6th grade, not sire which one it was, pretty comfortable with it, though I admit, it can be frustrating sometimes.

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    [–] [email protected] 101 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    I have no idea how selection works anywhere else, since I only ever used gimp.

    For me, I don't understand this meme, selection seems to work very intuitively, it seems to do what I expect it to do.

    [–] [email protected] 101 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

    work very intuitively

    I only ever used gimp

    [–] [email protected] 28 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

    Lol, all these GIMP haters who don't seem to understand the goal was being on par with Photoshop when it was a desktop application. It works exactly like Photoshop always did. And I agree, selection makes sense. There were many apps that worked the same.. Paint Shop Pro as well.

    I guess the kids have all grown up with some other tools and would rather call things they don't understand stupid than try to grasp where the tool came from.

    I'm not sure how Krita is different but then again I haven't used it. I installed it, saw it looked like a fork of GIMP, and stuck with what I knew. Which is probably what anyone who hates GIMP should do.

    [–] [email protected] 51 points 5 months ago (24 children)

    It works exactly like Photoshop always did.

    Unequivocally false (source: been a PS user since version 7)

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    [–] [email protected] 52 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    Taking the time to learn gimp is worthwhile. Its really powerful once you know how to use it IMO

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    [–] [email protected] 42 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    I have used Gimp for years and I actually do not understand this meme. Like, do you not understand how image selection and/or layers work? What tf did you think would happen except for exactly what happens?

    [–] [email protected] 34 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    maybe its because of the thing where you select something and try moving it and it moves the whole layer? thats the only thing ive ever had a problem with in gimp

    [–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

    Ooohh, okay, I get how that could be unintuitive. Thank you.

    It's better to separate it to another layer so I do it without realizing. If you have trouble with outlines forming then use copy instead of cut.

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    [–] [email protected] 41 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (5 children)

    I'm confused. Just tried the selection tool in GIMP and Krita on my PC and sketchbook on my tablet. Works the same way as far as I can tell. Just select, draw in there, copy/paste, ctrl-shift-a to unselect. Moving is more convenient in Krita and Sketchbook, true, but like that can't be it right? I'm at a loss.

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    [–] [email protected] 38 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    I dont really know photo editing, could someone explain?

    [–] [email protected] 61 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    It takes a while to figure out how selections in Gimp work.

    It whenever you select you have created a mask and when you combine it with layers it can get very confusing.

    If you accidentally select a small bit you cannot edit anything else. I think that is what OP is referring to.

    There is a tool that shows you what you have selected that can help.

    IMO Gimp isn’t very well documented so you can get stuck for a while before you understand what is going on.

    [–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Oooh, wait, that isn't how it works in other programs? I really like that behaviour in GIMP to be perfectly honest, have used it in editing stuff deliberately.

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    [–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    Doesn't Ctrl + A deselect?

    [–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    yeah, that's the point of the joke. You'd think that the "default state" should be "select all" -- I want to edit the entire layer, so I should select all of it. But no, "select all" has a bunch of weird obscure behaviour, "select none" is what you want most of the time, even though it gets the shortcut with more keys.

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    [–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago

    Don't try to draw a circle either

    [–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

    guys don't try to resize the canvas by eye in paint.NET

    even ms paint is better in this regard

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    [–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    Yes, people are handicapped and entrapped by using Adobe products.

    [–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (8 children)

    My man GIMP is the only software I've ever seen that doesn't use CTRL+D for deselect

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    [–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    Crtl shift a it's so obvious right... Right?!

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    [–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago

    Meanwhile me using Corel draw:

    [–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    why don't people use krita? Gimp may be the most famous photoshop alternative, but I almost never hear anyone talk about others that may potentially be better.

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    [–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago
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