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Apple to Limit iPhone 15 USB-C Cables to USB 2.0 Speeds: Report::undefined

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[–] [email protected] 302 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

They already said that

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[–] [email protected] 207 points 1 year ago (15 children)

TFW a wifi transfer literally loads files from your phone faster than a fucking cable.

[–] [email protected] 110 points 1 year ago (22 children)

That's the point. Expect the iPhone 17 to be portless to the consumer.

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[–] [email protected] 187 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Amazing how this company is so successful knowing they're just scamming their clients

[–] [email protected] 85 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And yet their anti-consumer practices continues to be hailed by their loyal customer base.

It's mind blowing.

"A fool and his money are soon parted."

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[–] [email protected] 135 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Apple fanboys drooling over the company as it continues to shit on them.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I doubt your typical apple user will use the usb port for anything other than charging.

If they are going to improve transfer speeds it's not going to happen in the same iteration they're being made to switch to usb c for two reasons:

  1. They want to incetivise users to upgrade to a newer model 16
  2. They will want to take credit for faster speeds. Otherwise people will think usb c is just faster than lighting they were stuck with for years.
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[–] [email protected] 115 points 1 year ago (22 children)

ITT people pretending this is a spite based move, when realistically it is probably cutting costs by reusing the same hardware they used for lightning ports just soldering on a USB-C port instead of a lightning one.

[–] [email protected] 158 points 1 year ago (3 children)

A shining example of cutting edge Apple innovation

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 1 year ago (7 children)

dude usb 3.0 is 15 years old by now, and they're a trillion dollar company. They'll manage, this is 100% by choice

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

On a thousand dollar phone

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The SoC lacks the hardware. Even the USB C iPads with A series chips operate at 2.0 speeds. They can only do 5Gbit in host mode, like with an external SSD. Plugged in to a computer they are 2.0.

I would imagine future chips will have the capability, once the Pro chips trickle down to the base models.

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[–] [email protected] 92 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (39 children)

How do apple fan boys keeps eating this shit-sandwich year after year?

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[–] [email protected] 86 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They are going to limit it to USB 2.0 speeds so in 3 or 4 years they can declare some new magical advancement and bump it up to full 3.0 speeds.

Apple purposefully limits things so that they have something to announce in the future. They aren't dumb. They know the advancements in smartphones has been starting to slow down. So they meter out the advances over many years in incremental updates to give their customers a reason to upgrade.

You will hear something like this from every reviewer after an Apple event: "The changes were small, but taken together the new insert product name here might be well worth the upgrade price."

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[–] [email protected] 81 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In other news: company with long history of selling over-priced, under featured products to aspirational nitwits does it again!

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[–] [email protected] 77 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yes, I can't wait for them to launch the newest innovative tech of Type C for iPhone, which will offer more speed and better compatibility cause they are the good guys who swear they would protect your data and keep an eye on your photos too.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I have family who actually believes all of what you just said. The tribalism can get a bit much.

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[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Why anyone would buy into this crap is beyond me.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

they have created the culture of superiority. a posh product for our shallow acquaintances. it's a great filter test actually.

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 year ago (8 children)

ITT: people who don't realize that most USB-C cables are USB 2.0

[–] [email protected] 88 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Which is fine, I have a full speed USBC cable and it's a thicc boi that I certainly wouldn't want to shove in my pocket all the time and the 2.0 speed ones still charge my laptop even. But Apple is limiting the PORT, not the cable, which isn't cool.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

This is irrelevant.

We're talking about smartphones here, and most new Android phones support > 3.0.

Limiting a flagship phone in 2023 to USB 2.0 transfer and charging speeds is a cheapskate move.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

Well, charger cables are usually at USB 2.0 speed because USB-PD works the same, but signal integrity doesn't matter as much, so you can make a longer, more flexible cable without using in-cable shielding...

So this is misleading, since the included cable coming in 2.0 speed (missing pins) absolutely does not mean that the iPhone USB-C port will only support 2.0.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (4 children)

To the surprise of no one. However, EU is already on top of this. After this law was enacted they realized just how scummy Apple is, not sure how they managed to miss that especially considering they have to fine them and threaten with market ban if they didn't uphold 2 year mandatory warranty consumer protection laws in EU guarantee.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What a messy article. The title says that the cables are limited to 2.0 speeds (which they might as well be), the subtitle mentions charging speed as opposed to transfer speed and the article itself then talks about the port on the device having 2.0 speeds (for non "Pro" models).

Anyways, of course they gimp the base model on purpose. Every company does to set the more expensive models apart obviously, but Apple drives it to the extremes especially in recent years, which makes their line-up incredibly confusing. I mean they've gone out of their way to make their 10th gen base iPad use the old Apple Pencil, and they still don't laminate the display even after they redesigned the exterior.

If you want a new iPhone this fall and you're looking for something in the price range of the standard iPhone 15 (which will still be a very expensive phone of course), I'd recommend looking for previous year's "Pro" model. The iPhone 13 Pro dropped around the iPhone 14 price at launch, and it's essentially better in almost every way.

And because people will mention it: of course, you can also get a phone from a different manufacturer if it suits you, or keep your current phone.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Usb 2.0 is 23 years old now.

There's a line between "enhancing the pro model by shitting on everyone else" but like this is just disrespectful.

But hey your money, spend that shit as stupidly as you want

(3.0 came out 15 years ago for reference, it'll be older than some kids getting the phone ffs)

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago

but like this is just disrespectful.

The word you’re looking for is “anti-consumer”

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago

So, worse than a Galaxy S5. Got it.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Little bit of a strange article.

First, it's about data transfer speeds. I don't think... anyone else in my extended family, and certainly none of the iPhone users, use a cable to transfer data frequently.

But more importantly - the subtitle of the article says that only the pro models offer faster charging speeds. Despite the article being exclusively about data transfer speeds.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Why?

Not that I use the junk this company ships to stores but a part of me would like to hear the meeting where someone proposed this and the rationale to support it.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Easy. Because then it means that the easiest way to get files off your phone to your computer (definitely a Mac, right? RIGHT?) is via an iCloud subscription. Why sell a cable for $10 when you can sell a monthly subscription for $3?

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago

Merely a rumor. Apple is known to put multiple false rumors into their supplier chain to find leakers.

I’m going to wait for the upcoming formal announcement and specs.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm confused, is this a strategy meant to persuade people to keep using the lightning cable bullshit?

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unless it's limited by hardware this will be a main cause for jailbreaking your iPhone.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What makes you say that? 90% of the users don't even connect their iPhone to a pc anymore.

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