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ARE TANKIES CONSPIRING TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A BAD TIME ON LEMMY.ML? (lemmy.ml)

submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[email protected] - ARE YOU A TANKIE? - informal poll results ~

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A ridiculous question. “Tankie” isn’t a term anyone self-identifies with, it’s mostly a term used by liberals to hurl at anyone to the left of them or anyone who agrees with western foreign policy. The survey results will be as meaningless as the term “tankie” itself.

Image description: A5 page, with various pie charts and text, indicating the results of an informal poll from lemmy.ml, full image text in spoiler

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ARE TANKIES TAKING CONSPIRING TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A BAD TIME ON LEMMY.ML ??

HEXBEAR.NET

DOES THE WORK FOR YOU!!

WE ASKED [email protected] ARE YOU A TANKIE?

First stack of pie charts shows the yes / no split, highlights that the lemmy.ml yes responses made up less than half of the yes votes, hexbear.net and lemmygrad.ml only made up a small portion, some hexbear-ians even vote no
second and third pie charts show the yes votes, and no votes by instance respectively
third stacked pie chart shows the yes / no split by instance, overlay-ed with the total yes / no votes

only top level comments were counted
tankies are closer than they appear
Deeply unserious
NDTS

full results / data

COUNTA of yes
@lemmy.ml = 10
@lemmygrad.ml = 5
@lemmy.world = 3
@lemmy.zip = 1
@hexbear.net = 3
@lemmy.sdf.org = 1
@lemmy.one = 1
Grand Total  = 24

COUNTA of no
@lemmy.ml = 2
@lemm.ee = 2
@lemmy.world = 8
@lemmy.blahaj.zone = 1
@reddthat.com = 1
@ttrpg.network = 1
@hexbear.net = 4
@lemmy.jhjacobs.nl = 1
Grand Total = 20

taken from archived post https://archive.md/AAY1L

this was fun, thanks for the polling idea, Kristina (I spent too long on these charts because yours looked so spiffy, I hope you specifically are impressed lol), solidarity cleaning that data up, and general reminder people only half read anything before launching into a diatribe

tl:dr yes, tankies are totally conspiring to make sure you have a bad time on lemmy.ml

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Tankies broke into my house and moved all my furniture half an inch to the left

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The "everyone's a tankie who disagrees with me" I'm convinced is a new meme.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That's what happens when you defederate from pro-Marxist instances. Zionists and anti-Communists start joining this anti-Marxist space and you have a whole new Red Scare on your hands.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago (2 children)

People who are downvoting this dont like to have fun

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 months ago (15 children)

I downvoted because after staring at it for 15 seconds I still had no idea what data it tried to transmit or what the message was. It's just a bad infographic.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

you must be one of them tankies /s

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Sir, madam, or enby, this is a c/memes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Sir, madam, or…

Ethical non binary yankee?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Close! Non-Binary → N.B. → enby

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Thanks, TIL! (Also, while you explained it well I still took so long to understand. Guess I’m having a slow day 😅)

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

Some of these graphs are just very hard to read even with the explanation another user gave

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

All in all, "Tankie" is just the modern version of "Pinko!" I've seen Anarchists called Tankies, every manner of Marxists, non-Marxist Socialists, and more. It truly lost all of its meaning and is just Lemmy's Red Scare.

A huge portion of that comes from Lemmy.world, which is the largest instance to defederate intentionally from Hexbear and Grad, which has the presumably unintended effect of making Zionists and other far-right wingers feel comfortable in an Anticommunist instance.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

What is the top graph? It seems to be some combined thing, but I can't figure out what.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Sorry its a bit confusing, its not serious though so its not worth stressing over

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Reporter: [REDACTED]
Reason: Spam or Abuse

Reporter is having a bad time on lemmy.ml, what more evidence do you need?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

That's just sad, haha.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

I've never seen a set of graphs with so few labels for everything it was showing

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I've only ever seen people complain about them tangentially. Guess I'm not following the communities they usually pop up in

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Lemmy is going through an Anticommunist Red Scare right now, particularly on Lemmy.world.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

More pixels plz

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Hexbear is how all communities should be in Lemmy .

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Are tankies conspiring to repeat the "tankie is a meaningless term" mantra till someone believes them?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I've seen Anarchists called "tankie" so at this point it either needs to be entirely redefined or done away with. Even suggesting people to read Marx can get you called a tankie these days.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So if I call a car a giraffe the word giraffe looses its meaning and becomes invalid?

Misusage of terms doesn't cancel out the concept these words refer to lul

If it would in would just call my bake rolls fascists, so the fascists go away

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (7 children)

What is a "tankie?" Every person gives a different definition. It's like "woke."

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

And woke also has a meaning conservative dbags can't steal.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

u can no more define tankie than you can define woke.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Woke: from civil right movement, someone who is weary of loyalty to the state and instead examines society/policy/politics himself. - in modern times used as slur against progressive and ecological conscious people by right wing people.

Tankie: Someone who is authoritarian to a degree he sees using the army (tanks) against the own civilian population as a valid and legitimate action. Sometimes used as slur by people against those measures (or generally highly authoritarian top down approaches of state theory) or as (positive) self reference by people in favor of such measures (or generally highly authoritarian top down approaches of state theory)

Don't know what your problem is defining both.

EDIT: Not to be confused with "I know exactly who a tankie is and who isn't - my definition is 100% correct" or even "there are exact boundaries and conditions to what a tankie is"

Its like "peace", " progressive", "right-wing", different people will give you different definitions, my point is, that there is a concept to which the word refers and different interpretations/ambiguities don't render the term useless simply by existing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Yeah, a bunch of people misuse both 'woke' and 'tankie' as just insults so both seem to lose meaning. Especially with politically charged words, I think leftists have a knee jerk reaction to being mislabeled a tankie and come to the conclusion that it is meaningless and not just misused.

Thr word tankie even has a wiki page

I think it's a useful term, saying authoritarian communist is just too wordy.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I'm pretty damn left leaning and I've never been called a tankie. I rarely even see anyone being called a tankie, except people who are defending authoritarians. The scope of the word "tankie" seemed generally pretty clear to me.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Same, never experinced problems with misusage of the term (in real life). When i mentioned this in another thread, someone chimed in and stayed they were experiencing it constantly for no reason and also leftist around him would be called that. Later that discussion it was revealed that he thinks everyone who doesn't agree with Stalins policy is not (true) left....

I hear waaaaayyy more complaining about the term tankie from actual tankies than I hear people using it as a general slur against left people.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

I've been called a Tankie for suggesting people read Marx, and I have seen Anarchists called Tankie before.

It seems that it's just a way to left-punch from liberals.

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