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submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

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I keep seeing this instance is overrun with tankies so hey, lets do an informal survey like I've seen on hexbear

respond with YES or NO in the first line of your comment and i'll tally everything in a couple of days, lets say I'll try and collect everything on the sunday the 9th (10+gmt sorry)

not sure thisll work, be nice, have fun

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[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago
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[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

No, then yes, then no again.

Long story, won't explain, I don't remember many details since it's been years since I cared about any of this stuff; other than "Gonzalo did nothing wrong, there is no AES, CCP and Russia lost their way due to Deng in China and the assassination of Lenin in Russia blah blah I'm an ultra or maoist or something blah blah".

Open source movement is the only thing I care about now.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

No. Not a tankie. It would be nice if autocorrect let me type tankie and not talkie. I had to cut and paste it I'm not proud.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago
[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

My understanding is that tankies believe that groups that have partially or completely followed far-left principles should be exempt from all criticism. I disagree. As long as it is honest criticism, it should not only be allowed but encouraged.

I've also heard that tankies are historic revisionists to an extreme. While I agree Western history is not telling us the real version of things, I don't think other countries are either. I won't say that an event happened one way or the other just because country A or country B says so. If historians and other experts are still debating an event and its details, I prefer to watch from a distance as I have no way to contribute to those debates.

So... no.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (10 children)

YES

If wanting to receive basic human rights (food, housing, etc.), attend education without being discriminated against for my income and mental condition, control my workplace, earn the full value of my wages, have a government actually controlled by the people, all while being politically educated in past socialist movements and their theory to achieve all these things, then I'm sure as hell am a tankie, and I don't care what online liberals say.

Stalin rules, by the way. โœŠ

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[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

No.

Granted, I'm not on lemmy.ml either.

Maybe just yes or no isn't enough either. Maybe have someone post a picture of tanks in tienniemen square to prove they aren't a tanker.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

Not that I know of.

[โ€“] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

No I'm not. Unfortunately one of the problems with tankies is they don't call themselves that most of the time. But I can confidently claim I'm not because when a fellow leftist disagrees with me on 5% of something, I gently explain why I believe what I do, and then proceed to not be mad if the petty difference continues.

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